Thank you for updating everyone with more information.
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Now I just have to sit and wait for smart math people to break down the entire ranking journey into dumb Salt pieces.
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Can we get an example of someone who is rank 4 and gets 175k honor?
Is the cp awarded from the Honor gain only used for “Expected Rank”?
R13 0%----R14 How to count
need how many weeks？
For the nerds, I extrapolated a curve and y = -9407.051 + 11082.26x - 1943.109x^2 + 267.8953*x^3 seems to fit where Y is the Honor required to hit a rank threshold, and X is the Rank.
| Rank | Honor | CP | Change Factor |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | -0.004699999999 | 0 | 1 |
| 2 | 7128.1954 | 2000 | 1 |
| 3 | 13584.9211 | 5000 | 1 |
| 4 | 20977.5442 | 10000 | 0.8 |
| 5 | 30913.4365 | 15000 | 0.8 |
| 6 | 44999.9698 | 20000 | 0.8 |
| 7 | 64844.5159 | 25000 | 0.7 |
| 8 | 92054.4466 | 30000 | 0.7 |
| 9 | 128237.1337 | 35000 | 0.6 |
| 10 | 174999.949 | 40000 | 0.5 |
| 11 | 233950.2643 | 45000 | 0.5 |
| 12 | 306695.4514 | 50000 | 0.4 |
| 13 | 394842.8821 | 55000 | 0.4 |
| 14 | 499999.9282 | 60000 | 0.34 |
Plugging in for a Fastest Run to max would be
| CP | Rank | Honor Required | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Week 1 | 9000 | 3 | 21000 |
| Week 2 | 24500 | 6 | 64844 |
| Week 3 | 37000 | 9 | 175000 |
| Week 4 | 49500 | 11 | 394842 |
| Week 5 | 55200 | 13 | 500000 |
| Week 6 | 56900 | 13 | 500000 |
| Week 7 | 58600 | 13 | 500000 |
| Week 8 | 60300 | 14 | 500000 |
This matches the 8 Week to rank 14 they stated in the original post, so I am going to assume I am at least close.
Adding an edit here since I see people commenting about this a lot.
“If the player’s “expected rank” is greater than or equal to their current rank, then for each rank above their own (up to a maximum of 4 ranks), they are awarded the difference in CP between each rank above theirs and the next below it, multiplied by the honor change factor for that rank.”
Based on the item they said is that you can only qualify for the CP gain of ranks +4 to their current rank. So based on if you start the rank at “0” or “1” slightly changes things since that means you can qualify for CP at Rank 4 or 5 respectively which means you could theoretically gain 4 ranks, but besides that first rank jump there is mathematically not enough CP to jump a quad rank based on their math.
Assuming R1 is really the start and not “0” as I did the original math…
(R2-R1)xR2 CF+(R3-R2) xR3CF+(R4-R3)xR4CF+(R5-R4)xR5CF + original CR =
2000x1+3000x1+5000x.8+5000x.8 + 0 (starting with nothing)=
2000+3000+4000+4000+0 = 13000 which is slightly over halfway into R4.
IF you assume 0 is a rank, you lose that last 4k since +4 ranks only gives you CP from 1, 2, 3, 4. That means you can only hit R3.
Again, I am only interpretation their poorly explained system.
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I’m rank 0. How many honor points do I need this week to have the maximum progression (rank 4)?
CP is such a unfortunate acronym for the new point system.
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Is there any plans to make a visual progress bar in game to reference CP in relation to rank?
For alot of us starting at rank 1 this would be especially helpful. There is no need to get 500k the first few weeks. Ive been asking people to help me out, all I get it responses that further send my brain into a potato abyss
So a rank 12 with 90% person (54000 CP) is going to get to rank 14 in two weeks of 500k honor, while a rank 13 with anywhere between 0 and 30% (55000 - 56500 CP) is going to need 3 weeks of 500k honor to get to rank 14. LOL. Nice work blizz
Just to make sure im reading this correctly. You can only gain 4 ranks each week. So even if you earn says 8 ranks worth of honor you will only be awarded 4 ranks.
Body type 3, 4, 6 and 7 when?
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Yes, the max 4 ranks in a week thing is correct for sure.
To be fair it’s always been this way. Kind of. A guy at rank 1 in the pre-SoM system could have PVPed like crazy to be top honor on the server still wouldn’t have passed R4 in week 1.
A lot of what has been done is just changing the caps to Blizzard-decided ones instead of player-decided ones.
Okay awesome thanks for the insight
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I’m confused. Which is it?
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This is EXACTLY the reason I tried to comprehend the system based on their examples because I always assumed 65k was 14 not 60k, it means you are stuck at R13 for weeks even at max tier.
Also, is rank 0 a rank?
“If the player’s “expected rank” is greater than or equal to their current rank, then for each rank above their own (up to a maximum of 4 ranks), they are awarded the difference in CP between each rank above theirs and the next below it, multiplied by the honor change factor for that rank.”
Based on the item they said is that you can only qualify for the CP gain of ranks +4 to their current rank. So based on if you start the rank at “0” or “1” slightly changes things since that means you can qualify for CP at Rank 4 or 5 respectively which means you could theoretically gain 4 ranks, but besides that first rank jump there is mathematically not enough CP to jump a quad rank based on their math.
Assuming R1 is really the start and not “0” as I did the original math…
(R2-R1)xR2 CF+(R3-R2) xR3CF+(R4-R3)xR4CF+(R5-R4)xR5CF + original CR =
2000x1+3000x1+5000x.8+5000x.8 + 0 (starting with nothing)=
2000+3000+4000+4000+0 = 13000 which is slightly over halfway into R4.
IF you assume 0 is a rank, you lose that last 4k since +4 ranks only gives you CP from 1, 2, 3, 4. That means you can only hit R3.
Again, I am only interpretation their poorly explained system.
Can you guys answer some of the questions people have asked? Right now the system makes no sense. If the cap for R14 is 60k CP, then there is absolutely no point in farming 500k honor since that translates to 65k CP.
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Could you post the max honor cap for each rank please so we know how much to grind thanks
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Metagame less and enjoy the PvP. Why min-max it to death?