Wow and Free Speech and forum Censorship

The only things that should be censored or actioned is blatant racism or death threats. I could care less about everything else.

and you would be wrong…

Freedom of speech is the right afforded to a person to be able to speak his or her mind without fear that the government or actors of the government ,will censor or restrict what they have to say, or will retaliate against them for expressing ones self…

Blizzard is not a government agency or entity or actor. They are a private business and while you are not hindered from saying what you want, they can punish or prohibit you in any way they feel. You are not owed the right to this platform you are a guest in blizzards home.

and…fyi…

Not all speech is protected under that shield and saying so will get you laughed at by most people who did not fail civics. These include prohibitions against defamation, slander, copyright violations, and trade secrets, plagiarism and some certain unprotected speech including minors can land you on the s*x offenders registry or worse. AS well to remember every country has different rules and regulations on speech… but sure you can say it. You are free to say what you want, just be prepared for the outcome of your speech that is not protected.

Blizzard is a private entity that is looking out for itself from liability and more lawsuits. They don’t care that you don’t understand basic civics. They only care about if you checked off that user agreement box when they kick or block or punish you for breaking it.

To answer the " but they allow sex and violence and gore and adult stuff knowing kids play it so anything should go "

Blizzard is a business they have to regulate behavior with this many people. The ESRB is there to start, and user agreements and social agreements are in secondary protection. With today’s litigious society they are going to swing that ban hammer hard and sometimes innocent people get banned.

World of Warcraft is rated T (Teen) by the ESRB for blood and gore, crude humor, mild language, suggestive themes, and use of alcohol and violence. In Australia, the game’s earned an M rating from the Office of Film and Literature Classification.

That answers that… If a parent is not aware or don’t care and allowing it, that’s on them. Blizzard is protected. If you think your civil liberties are violated, you have the right to not use their platform and boycott them by Un subbing and leaving…This is not a 1A violation or any right in any way.

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Man, you really don’t follow non-American news do you?

The point that many people are making here is that in a free and open society people have a basic right to free speech. To not be gagged by any person, place, or thing. This includes private companies. This is an interesting exercise in ethics.

How far will some people go in an effort to support their oppressors. How much of their hard fought for freedoms will they willingly surrender to either a government or a corporation. What price freedom?

Historically people have lost their freedom by small steps. A little bit at a time. Then some day they wake up and realize they are afraid to say anything because the systems put in place by unscrupulous people will punish them for anything they say.

Think about this. What’s the point of the government giving the populous freedom from tyranny. And then the populous accepts the tyranny from private companies?

Skipping past all the logic and explanation and rationalization to get to my opinion of it all. I think that if a company provides a platform to the PUBLIC making it a public space, while simultaneously reaping the sweeping broad legal benefits of having nearly no accountability, then they should have to provide a free speech environment. They should not have their cake and eat it at the same time. Choose between heavy censorship and moderation -OR- broad sweeping legal protection from the government. It’s not right that they are able to eat the greenest of grass from both sides of the fence.

The most recent rule changes when it came to language was done entirely to avoid lawsuits. Alex Jones was indicted and convicted of things said on his “platform” and ultimately forced to apply for bankruptcy for being made an example of. Alex Jones didn’t actually face a verdict for anything he said personally, but what others said in his presence. The California state government for whatever reason has set their sights on Blizzard in attempt to make an example of them for similar companies. Make no mistake, it was put in to protect them from further legal action.

Alex Jones was sued (not indicted) for defaming the Sandy Hook parents and survivors. These were things he said, not just his guests. Defamation, slander, and libel are not protected speech.

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Saying “yes” to move on from a segment is not slander. Please watch the full case before commenting on it.

His verdict was based 100% on what he said about Sandy Hook parents.

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That would be correct, if it were true. It is not.

This thread is becoming more and more unhinged…I am here for it!
:popcorn: :coffee:

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Truth now a days is a blue check mark and a upvoted reddit post. Color me shocked if I no longer take anything at face value anymore. Watch the case, then comment. I know none of you will, but maybe someday.

I have been following the case. Court reports and legitimate news sources. He has been found liable for defamation by a jury of his peers. In our system of jurisprudence, it doesn’t get any more final than that.

Maybe you need better sources?

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Your entitlement is showing.

The Alex Jones case was a civil suit not a criminal case. In order to be indicted, a grand jury would be called upon to determine if the prosecution had enough evidence to be brought to trial in a criminal court of law. None of that happened since Jones was not charged with any crime.

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You also need to remember that while the United States has freedom of speech which I think is great. This is a multi national company and they are not able to allow freedom of speech when somethings you may say will be a law violation in other countries.

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Arguing semantics is never a fun time.

what a fuggin hilarious quote, got thomas jefferson here in the wow forums :laughing: :rofl:

Me too. I’m at home sick today, just watching.

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It’s not semantics. It’s you literally being misinformed or misinforming others. The two things are completely different.

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