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gotcha. Have yourself a day.
not rly a troll check old posts. why would they launch the expansion with everything on launch? Would be silly having uld, toc, icc at launch.
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There is no way you didn’t see that coming… they used all bug fixes and future patches for older content to make the gameplay better in the previous iterations of classic and at this point authenticity goes out the window and RDF should be added, there is no reason its not in the game currently… let me rephrase, there is no good reason it’s not in the game
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that argument is a paper tiger argument. they gave a good reason when they did their livestream. plus that content didnt come out till ICC in 3.3.0.
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Not my Wrath Reforged experience…
I’m sure some where in ironforge there’s an inn with a bar in it and you can drink your sorrows away.
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I’ll just get some of your classic copium, maybe then I will also think Wrath is better without RDF…
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They’ve yet to give a single good reason, I’m curious to hear the livestream, just so I know the devs are out of touch and clueless.
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They don’t need a good reason, they just need a reason. Like when/if they add it back in, it won’t be a good reason, but a generic blah reason. This is just where we are and people need to adapt or not play.
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id rather it be as close to it was as possible but i get some limitations due to complexity like patch by patch.
If rdf is in the game, You are FORCED to use it, and it Killed the community 15 years ago, if you put RDF into the game, At any point, it will once again kill the game, Classic should never get RDF, The day it gets it, is the day classic dies and retail 2.0 is born.
retail has an RDF option, please if you cannot find the social skills and patience to take 3 minutes and make a group (cause its just that easy), please consider playing retail, where you have all that QoL and fast paced, instant gratification gameplay, and let us classic fans enjoy our grindy and social game. you can get RDF when cata hits, most of us will be out of here anyway
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Who is forcing you? How do you think grouping was done before RDF? Also no one is saying the LFG system would disappear. We just want RDF. You’re nuts if you think it effects the community negatively. At least try and back up your claim with some sort of proof of it actually doing it if you’re gonna make the claim.
This boomer classic andy mentality…
“Inv 4 dps?”. “gg”. “hey” is your average exchange if in any and all dungeons no matter the form… stop acting like it creates this world of communication and social interaction.
I do play retail, I play both, I know that’s a scary thing to hear… but you can also go back to vanilla and stay there and get over yourself while we enjoy a closer to authentic version of the game.
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THIS is an authentic version of the game, RDF DID NOT EXIST PRIOR TO ICC.
RDF Affects the community negatively and for its use for the following:
- bonus loot from RDF if you are not using it, you are losing on people that are using it.
- opportunity to run the same heroic more than once per day,
- Badges from randoms means faster gearing, meaning people will stop running content even faster than they are atm,
- Bring negative behaviours like , Joining a random and leaving if it isnt the one you wanted often screwing over 3 dps, People leaving half way after they got the boss they wanted, ninja looting, Toxicity and trash talk. All these behaviours come from the perfect anonymity RDF brings.
- it kills server identity and in guild interactions/social aspect as well
maybe for you, making groups does not bring social interactions. i have a lot of conversations with players in groups i made, and i have a pretty nice Friend list because i actualy talk to people in game and i have good players i know i can rely on to run pug/gdkp raids. have you tried chatting with others ? people tend to be very receptive but rarely will start the discussion, and it doesn’t really slow down the pace of content
The party finder tool works wonders, seriously, it takes 3 minutes, you can pick whatever class you want if youre looking for a specific item and dont want competition, You can conveniently see who is interested in running the same content as you, and for what reason (achievement runs ? Badge/Item farm? etc.) a little right click>whisper and a nice message goes a very long way.
seriously, Why are you even playing this version of the game if all you’re looking for to click a button, get matched with 4 other players randomly and not interact with them, pick-up loot and be on your way? Why ? i am not suggesting to play retail to be rude, but because it has everything you actualy desire, the casual gameplay, without caring about anyone else, the QoL features, etc.
There is nothing so extraordinary about Wrath of the lich king or classic that justifies playing it other than because we did not have any of those things, we actualy had to work together a build a community to do stuff. if you bring those in, you remove the need for that community and there is no more reason for this game to exist
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Yet we have EVERY system from the game but that… so there is that.
That’s a simple loot system change, you think that wouldn’t be included? Changes haven’t been made right? 
Oh no… easy outdated content being done early while everyone already has gear 2 weeks in. Oh no, what ever am I to say against that logic…
Love this delusional mindset… toxicity exists, RDF isn’t the cause of it… players are.
Trying to say RDF is the cause of toxicity is complete non-sense and you know it, what’s the excuse of the current classic community? You don’t have RDF to throw under the bus, so what is the excuse this time?
Good for you, not everyone wants to be social every second of their play time… and RDF doesn’t stop social interaction, because I can still say, “hello! how are you?”, “ggs!”, “hope to see you next time!” or anything else I wanna say… RDF doesn’t stop me. If it stops you then that’s a YOU issue. Being social is a choice.
Why do I play this version of the game? I enjoy WOTLK? I don’t understand where this question is coming from, so if I don’t have a whiny sheltered classic andy mentality I shouldn’t play this game?
How about this, you play vanilla and get over yourself. We want RDF, it doesn’t effect you and you’ll never have anything but personal and whatever your favorite classic youtuber told you to say.
Then why are you playing it? I get nostalgic. You still have to build community, but you boomer classic andys only think one way… “if we no talk 24/7, we not social enough! must fly to point for dungeon to matter!”
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When rdf comes live. The classic Days will be counted. The servers will die over the course of 1-3 months and it will look like SOM where very few groups still run content but everyone is raid logging. It will be a beautiful, empty world.
Mark my words, and those of all of us that said RDF has to stay out. And we won’t be there to say it, but you will know, we told you so.
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The days are currently numbered, everyone is raid logging, pvp is dead, people were geared within the first 2 weeks. The content is easy and doesn’t require any real effort… so tell me, how RDF is going to be the one to kill the game?
They pushed a large portion of the player-base away and then they’re gonna try to inject RDF too late is what they’ll do while the game is already dying trying to save it and you boomers are gonna blame RDF, “look, what did i tell yeh!”
Correlation does not imply causation.
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I stand by my points. And all I can read on these post are insults , empty arguments and “muh gameplay…”
How will RDF really help anything in the game. What problem is it solving ? Is it even a problem ? What are the good sides of rdf other than cater to people’s laziness?
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Yea… your, “points” 
Not worrying about meta and sweaty try-hards in an easy game.
You can quest and/or farm in the open world while in a que for the dungeon, less time wasted.
Helping sub 70-leveling, because the world is dead and people can’t find people to dungeon with.
Helps people on smaller servers get groups when they can’t find them.
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There is no Meta and sweaty try-hards to run heroics, even less to run normal dungeons,
come on…
Nothing stops you from making a group while questing or farming, you only lose a very small amount of time to get to the dungeon, or you can be like half the population and just wait for a summon, everyone does it anyway.
Helping sub 70 leveling can be an interesting argument, but when people do that the world is literaly empty cause all they do is chain dungeons, people that enjoy questing are boned in that case with every single group quest, and while you are probably thinking “not my problem”, it is only an advantage for Tank and Healing specs, dps still wont get dungeons faster due to low/no demand. + with heirlooms and all the buffs to quest exp/rewards and reduction in exp needed questing is a very viable way to level and you can even level with pvp now lol, and you can queue from Anywhere at anytime.
so drop RDF to help a little bit dead population servers (cause with only 500 players on sulfuras it was still very fast and easy making groups even at the end of expansion) and on the other side finish off living servers and any form of world pvp. Yes , this definitely seems like a good trade off
WotLK with instanced WG isn’t WotLK.
WotLK with layering isn’t WotLK.
WotLK with personal arena rating isn’t WotLK.
WotLK without patch-by-patch balance/feature changes/updates isn’t WotLK.
WotLK with the non-traditional bugs being in the game isn’t WotLK.
WotLK with server-locking isn’t WotLK.
Should I keep going on or are you just making this thread to cherry-pick what you want?
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