If you look at the official post that Mispeled made in the community council forums, there are legimiate pro’s to RDF. The non RDF points are basically “we don’t want it because it doesn’t feel classic”. Thats not a reason, thats a feeling. Feelings do not belong in a place where a decision affects 300k+ people.
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See this is where you’re wrong, you can absolutely make a case for it. You not agreeing with a viewpoint does not mean someone isnt making a case for it. Itd be the same as if you invalidate someones opinion as to why they dont want it in the game or dont like it and just saying “Yeah, you cant make a case for it not being in the game, all you can say is you really just dont want it in the game”
You don’t even know how much of that 300k people are for or against RDF. That’s pretty much your feelings talking.
At least we’re willing to discuss compromise, unlike yourselves where if you don’t get the whole damn gift basket RDF originally came in on, you’re set to whinge on the forums till the end of days.
It’s highly unlikely those people really have an issue finding groups.
Every example you can look for online in terms of for or against is overwhelmingly for RDF being in the game. So yes, we dont know every single persons view on for or against but every avenue you can go to to get an idea is for rdf being in the game.
And as has been stated multiple times, even by the CC member who created this thread, these are invalid sources of the wider community’s opinion for several, glaringly red flag reasons.
You’re about to get a "yOu CaN’T uSe uNnOfiCiAl pOlLs’ type narcissistic crap reply. You can’t talk logic to these people, they don’t have any.
Theyre only invalid to you because they dont side with you. If they did, youd be citing them as evidence that nobody wants RDF.
You can admit you’re in the minority.
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Be careful you might confuse and enrage him with that logic.
Especially as he refuses to explain why forming groups in chat has any real value. Kind of funny how he goes on and on about being able to black list people then admits that that actually has so little value for 5 mans noone would care about it.
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Where? RDF is a convenience. Its easier than the alternative hence its desirability among players. That doesn’t mean its the best or correct move. One dont have jack to do with the other.
The way people are arguing this as if we already have RDF and its being taken away. We are already existing in an environment without RDF and it doesn’t really look like any great number of people are truly hindered without it. If we are already grouping fine without RDF then that means RDF is an unnecessary fluff convenience in the form of a double edged sword.
If its just an an unnecessary fluff convenience then you cant say its necessary.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Why do we need death knights in Wrath? We got through Classic and TBC without them.
You can literally apply that silly ‘it’s not necessary’ argument to anything. Although, of course given the completely toxic LFG system in TBCC dungeon finder actually is necessary.
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I think the classic community as a whole is a minority.
Even if we are the minority, it doesn’t change the fact that the removal of RDF has a target audience, and you’re pissed that you’ve discovered you might not be that target audience.
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Contrary to your paragraph many people are experiencing the crap time that is staring at bulletin board trying to get into a group.
You’re…joking, right? That sentence right there tells me you should have no opinion on RDF. You don’t know what you’re talking about or just purposely being blinded by the real problems that are happening right now.
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Such a terrible viewpoint lol
Classic community is the only ones being affected by this decision… You can be a minority of a minority, which your side is, overwhelmingly.
Oh… they also say you’re wrong with complete impunity. When they get cornered they’ll either take off or change the subject. This entire almost 1000 post thread’s only opposition to having RDF is 4 people posting repeatedly. I only remember seeing about 3-4 peeps who didn’t want it besides Zippy, Red and Corpsey.
Those 3 and a small handful of others (about 8 total) are the only ones who are ones who chip in on an every day basis.
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Yeah, it’s so Blizz can sell level 70 boosts during WotLK hype. They’ll add it back in later and say, “we listen”, after new player hype dies down.
Yes, ive played with more people on a drinking league softball team than there is anti rdfers in these threads.
Thats two posters in a row that say theres a case for it but then doesnt make it.
I know the reason is because that case doesnt exist and I even explained precisely why but Ill still get two paragraphs about unicorns with no unicorns.
They are very persistent. I’m sure one will tell me how wrong I am any moment now.