WOTLK deserves better

Sorry too late

Devs would rather split player base up again to fragment

Tauren, night elf, dreanei, and trolls can do it

I think a lot of the playerbase wants out of Wrath. Era has never been more popular since it was Live and I’m not talking about the HC server

Yeah after they linked realms it’s about as populated as a low pop server instead of being completely dead.

Wrath was always a weak expansion… and the worst part is right around the corner…

ToC. The true bottom of the barrel.

Have you been playing? Its so easy to find leveling groups the entire way to 60. They need fresh though.

I disagree tbh; ToC imo was actually one of the patches I enjoyed cus it actually added a dope daily area that lead to a lot of fun WPvP and jousting. (Actual social interaction, doubt it happens again as most will probably just content locust the dailies for the unlockables and never go near the place outside of raid night)
But yea; Wrath has always been weak imo. Its an identity crisis expansion. ICC and Ulduar are still great raids, but coming back to Ulduar and downing Alg first reset and replaying the rest blind off mostly memory its just so mid compared to just raiding on retail. At least Vanilla gives a fresh and unique experience.

I log in from time to time, and yeah it’s reasonably populated now that the realms are linked.

I’ll try HC when they release official servers, be interesting to see if they learned their lesson with SoM or if they screw that up again.

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What are you talking about? They have PTR out with the next phase of stuff in it. I mean what else would you like them to do?

Yea the devs showed WOTLK absolutely no respect.

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So It’s not so simple Remember the whole point of Bringing classic back Were people that originally wanted Vanilla And #no Changes.

The problem is now People want different things from wrath And the player bases very divided on what it should be.

1 You have people that don’t want any changes and just wanted to be wrath 2008 No changes.

2 You have people that they want Changes but it to be Similar to Vanilla.

3 You have people that want changes and the only thing to be the same is the name.

4 You have people that want the game harder than it was So that’s more of a challenge to them aka The mid max/ Speed running community.

5 Some changes are okay but they don’t want anything that takes away from me cough cough social experience In their opinion like rdf Whether that be good for the game or not.

I’ve set up before The classic player base is just as divided if not more divided than dragonflights player base is.

I do agree with you to a certain point it would be nice. If blizzard would give some communication but the thing is hc This is really popular right now.

Gdkps Are here to stay the problem is no matter what blizzard does people are always going to find a way around it Mainly because a lot of that stuff does get organized on discord and on a massive scale too.

And unfortunately a Lot Of the old systems that. A lot of people wanted Back And don’t want certain innovations aka If cross server play and cross faction play to them.

Whether it make playing the game more easy and accessible to them destroys what the game was And they want to avoid what the game became aka Dragonflight.

And keep it as close to Vanilla aka If that classic feel is close as possible which does not work for wrath People say dragonflight is a different game well yes.

But Here’s the thing and this is something I feel people of forgotten Every single expansion is a different game.

Vanilla tbc wrath cata mop wod Legion bfa sl and df Play nothing alike Yes you could make an argument that Vanilla and tbc Are the closest I guess but even still the games still play very differently.

Because let’s be real for a minute tbc Heroics Especially at launch were no joke you need specific cc If in some cases or you weren’t clearing that dungeon that just wasn’t the case in vanilla Just as one example.

My point is the issue isn’t necessarily on blizzard’s end it’s more What does the true majority of the player base want and what does blizzard truly want to achieve.

Most of the changes if not all the changes they’ve done to wrath have bin good Is the only extremely huge L is And continues to be on rdf.

People need to understand that wrath is not Vanilla It’s a different game just like Dragonflight is a different game And until people get that.

It’s always going to feel like a mess Playing and simple.

I appreciate the thought and effort in this post.

However it being a mess and people wanting different things really has nothing to do with at least Blizzard being better communicators when it comes to wrath. Just looking at the blue tracker compared to say the regular game general is kind of depressing I know it’s BLIZZARDS MAIN GAME, but for a lot of Wrath people wrath IS THEIR MAIN GAME.

You would just think that Blizzard would have some more respect for us after being around multiple decades.

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Not at all. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Indeed it does but this is what we got. Will say however that while wrath deserves better, its awful community does not.
(This post is being unnecessarily censored by Blizzard until May 15, 2023 9:19 am.)

The irony is that it is their own fault these have not done as well as they should have. They horribly mismanaged the projects from the start while ignoring everyone that knew better.

I suspect that this is because HC is insanely popular, but what they have not realize is that HC is a fad. A fad I enjoy but its a fad none the less.

I really can’t wait when they finally release HC servers and half the player base is disinterested or won’t abandon their current HC toon because of all the work they already put into it.

Not to mention HC already has Cthun down. KT will be down before HC servers release. I feel there will still be delusional people that will shriek that it wasn’t done on an official blizzard HC server so it doesn’t count, but far less because of how slow blizzard releases things.

They just wanna fragment the communities to be small enough to justify shutting down the project. “It was fun guys, but go on back to retail now fellas,” will be what they basically say to the players too.

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yeah they REALLY missed the boat on this one.

Honestly. Since like what 2016? When haven’t they missed the boat?

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lol good point.

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Peak and down fall. Lets embrace it and watch the clown show on fold.

Community has proven they dont care

Hence scum

Its going to be sad, this is going to be the straw that broke the camels back.

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