Absolute crap! Dungeon finder was never an issue, it was raid finder.
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How is spamming LFG for hours and getting nothing make you socially inept? A tool to do the same thing minus the hassle doesn’t do anything to change the ‘social’ aspect of the dungeon group.
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To be fair it didn’t even exist in wotlk before 3.3
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Poor Oculus, the dungeon they even went so far as to create the extra rewards and players still NOPED out.
The vehicle combat wasn’t bad once you got the hang of it 
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It was my favorite dungeon! I remember getting the Blue Drake from the Heroic Cache back in the day.
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I think the biggest problem with dungeon finder, for me, was just the fact that it was added to the heroic 5 mans. I definitely feel it should have just been kept to normal mode dungeons. This would be like adding LFR to the heroic raid tables. Just would not make any sense.
Low leveling especially, getting into places like maraudon among other dungeons, will be a pain without the dungeon finder. No one will go here, except for maybe the boosters. And unless you want to know what all the min maxxer exploits are for leveling, leveling is going to be pretty slowly. 70 to 80 in particular, having done it before dungeon finder in wrath, it took a while.
I like to do each dungeon a couple of times as i level up. Now i possibly will not be able to. Finding players sometimes can take a while.
If they do end up adding it, keep it related to the server, and have it server based. That way you always see familiar faces, and people you can actually trade with.
I also feel like it should have ignored the 5 man heroic component entirely.
But dungeon finder did some bad things to. It devalued gear. Nothing was really that special anymore with the ease of access, especially blue quality gear and epic gear. I mean, seriously. Everyone at lower lvls started having all blues and all heirlooms. Even getting some casual dungeons going back then could be a pain, but you at least had that blue reward to go for. With the dungeon finder, everyone had blues and heirlooms.
I want blues to remain relevant, but man did the dungeon finder make this stuff insanely easy to get.
Also, alot of folks legit just que up while sitting around in org or thunderbluff or wherever all day, which is also a bit broken if you ask me.
My only hope is that blizzard at the very least makes dungeons like maraudon, among others, more aware. Because without the dungeon finder, these dungeons are going to be barren. No one is going to want to run maraudon. Period.
At the end of the day, it is what it is. I wasn’t a huge fan of the dungeon finder, but there were some positives to it to. Some dungeons i had never seen before dungeon finder, due to lack of groups forming, were now able to form pretty quickly. Experience overall was also easier to obtain as well, and i still remember a boatload of people playing out in the overworld doing questing tasks and objectives while waiting for friends.
But i mean, that is it. I also have reason to believe that dungeon finder might come to wrath classic in the future. For one thing, blizzard is very good at saving face and lying to get their visions pushed through. Look at the history of bc classic. Oh we don’t want to break any hearts, and boosting is not in keeping with the spirit of classic. And what do we have now. We had the boost mounts with a level boost, which started a asmogold /spit crusade because of how much people hated it, only to get the /spit function removed, and not the overall thing removed that caused the spit crusade to happen in the first place.
So i at least have reason to believe that the dungeon finder could potentially happen eventually. It is like looking at a house. That is the pretense. Telling your significant other that you are just going to look at houses just to get her to go, then, you see one cool with a decent deal and all that, and buy it up front. You also know she did not want to buy the house. That is exactly what happened with the level boosts for burning crusade. But now, i think it is commonly accepted. There is no real outroar over providing a level boost in wrath classic currently.
I think the dungeon finder is the same case. It is something the developer’s know
a large part of the community hates. I could be wrong i guess, but i honestly get this strange feeling that the dungeon finder will be added eventually to wrath classic. Just not right now. And maybe, they never will add it.
Just judging by the early reactions, it does seem like there are a LOT more that want the Dungeon Finder than those who don’t.
Let’s not forget that it WAS in the actual game, and WoTLK is when it started (though it was 3.3.0+)
Most people that want it are trying to point out that it seemed very clear that they have no intention on adding it. (Even though it was a hallmark feature of WoTLK)
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- the fact they tried to throw in “LFD is just not part of the Classic experience” But somehow BOOSTING is? Like what even.
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And most definitely keep paying us monthly. Definitely.
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I did to from oculus lol. I dunno. I never minded oculus to much.
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Blizzard being retarded as ever
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THIS. 10char
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WHY!!! why would they not give us LFD that was 1 of my favorite parts of LK. I could stay out of trade/LFG chat that is spammed by boost or ppl spamming LFM for raid and just join a que while questing or farming. Also it gave you the chance to have alts wanna learn tanking join LFD and lvl from 15 all way to 80 just tanking or even healing ya at first its going to be hard but of time you will learn by time you hit 80 be pro and have some good xp behind you. rip like 3.3.5 is sooo far into the xpact if they did drop it then there will barley be anytime to have fun with it.
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Padding out that time played. For every second you are forced to sit and spam LFG!!! LFFFFFGGGGGG!!! and then travel to the dungeon, is one more second youre paying to do nothing. And the more nothing they get you to do, the more time you have to spend catching up DOING things.
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Boosting sells tokens so it doesn’t matter 
As i mentioned, i think it is a saving face metric. Boosting is widely accepted now in classic. So there was no need to pull the, " Level boosting isn’t keeping with classic" Thing anymore with that.
With LFD, it is something that they have to know in their minds that there is a huge divide of those who like it and those who hate it. Which side they pick, we will have to wait and see. Because, they said level boosts would not be a part of bc classic. And then they ended up doing it anyways.
So, i have reason to believe that the dungeon finder will eventually be added. They are just saying it won’t be added to quell the violence on one side for now. Or they could just be keeping with the spirit of a non dungeon finder classic wrath of the lich king experience. So i could be wrong. Guess i will find out laterz.
LFD tool didn’t exist until 3.3, plenty of heroic farming and dungeon leveling existed before then, why you ask? Because tanking is actually FUN in wotlk. You have to remember just how much of a class and spec re-balance is coming in wotlk and the primary of those changes is tanks. Tanks become a fun and engaging spec in wotlk that have no problem of keeping AOE aggro and doing large amounts of damage while being incredibly easy to play. Another reason is because of dual spec. Dual spec allowed dps to switch in an instant without having to spend gold which caused a dramatic increase in tanks in both low levels and high level content.
Do not worry yourselves, the only reason why it’s so incredibly hard to find a dungeon in BC classic is because no one wants to play the boring, drag slog that is BC tanking, this gets completely fixed in wrath.
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An automated dungeon finder still rates, for me, as the greatest development in the history of World of Warcraft, bar none.
Before it, as a DPS, you could sit there in Shattrath or Dalaran for hours trying to find someone to run you through a dungeon. Read that again: sitting in cities just hanging out and accomplishing nothing while waiting for someone, anyone to pick you up for their group (because it was tanks, primarily, running the groups.)
After the dungeon finder came into play, it became very easy to actually go out into the world and enjoy doing things until your dungeon popped.
They even made some refinements in Legion, where they integrated the dungeon into the story chain… and if you were on that particular story step where you had the dungeon to complete to finish the zone, you got to zoom to the front of the line, so even as a DPS you never waited more than 2 or 3 minutes.
Most importantly: other games without dungeon finders felt it. I mean really felt it. There are a lot of fans of Star Wars: The Old Republic that believe that a lack of a dungeon finder tool was the beginning of the end of its popularity, especially when people reached max level.
This is an absolutely STUPID move on Blizzard’s part, and it completely destroyed my interest in Wrath Classic today. I went from definite interest to hard pass in one moment.
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The people that are glad LFD is gone are a vocal minority. Nobody finds it enjoyable to sit afk in town spamming LFG and World chat against all the mage boosters and bots to find a dungeon group. That isn’t enjoyable or good for anybody. Today’s WoW is not like how it used to be. All the people claiming it’s a good idea are the same ones that have never done the above. They’ve never spammed for a dungeon group on an alt, they just paid a mage to boost them. LFD was implemented for people to level alts and to meet new people and make friends. I still have people I’m friends with that I met while levelling alts in LFD during Wrath. This is a horrible decision and will backfire tremendously. This is what you do when you’re trying to put a ceiling on your game’s playerbase and alienate parts of the current one.
We have any WoD players here? Anyone remember the “oh we hate flying take it away” “Okay no flying in WoD” “Wait, oh my god this is terrible give us flying this is awful”. Yeah I remember that too.
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The removal of the Dungeon Finder is going to bite them in the butt later if they stick with it. I mean the whole badge system literally worked with the Dungeon Finder to make shoring up those off pieces that you don’t have filled easier.
That’s literally part of what made Wrath great to the average player - it opened up what would normally by upper end players only to everyone.
This is an awful idea.
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