Im not mad at you papa im mad at bfa for being a pile of turd. Promise 
Fair enough! lol
snuggles
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We are talking about her current version, not the pre-ruined version
Currently, she gets away without any real punishment after all she has done, gets incredibly powerful completely off-screen or hints, defeats the Lich King and his army by herself.
She fits the definition fairly well.
I would be different if she had actually struggled against Bolvar and maybe even be close to losing, but nah she gets out without a scratch
And before you keep with that idiotic thing about gender, i couldnt care less if she was female or male.
Mary Sue is not a sexist term, its used for bad writing of a female character
With Gary Stu being the male counterpart
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Activ-Blizzardâs forced 2 year expansion deadlines are beginning to show the lack of quality they put into the game. I was surprised how fast I got to the raid quest to kill the old god. Years of building up to an old god, and did the questline in less than 2 hours and was already able to queue for the raid to it.
Blizzard went from ârelease when its readyâ
To activ-blizzard
âWe need more money. Call of duty makes lots of money. Make expansion every 2 year, fire all employees and then hire for same position for less money and for them to do more workâ
Its not just the patch and how lackluster the end was.
The way blizzard treats their employees is pretty disgusting.
Steve Jobs is right. When a company becomes controlled by investors, it becomes less about making a quality product and about how much money they can make from that product.
For the fact that Shadowlands has more seconds on the 8.3 one is enough for me. But both were underwhelming.
The Shadowlands one was crisply done. Though I wish Bolvar would not just grunt like a moron and actually lay down some cool lines in that LICH KING voice.
The whole Sylvanas thing Iâm over. I honestly wish she wasnât even mentioned in Shadowlands. And was done with. I would of loved a better Nâzoth ending that tied into the Shadowlands.
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No one called it or you sexist you moron. Check yourself Mary Sue.
Iâm pretty sure they had a proper cinematic planned for 8.3.5 but since that got canned, they quickly scrapped one together, knowing that it wouldnât suffice.
Well you said that people call every âfenaleâ character Mary Sue cause we dont like it
Kinda suggesting it
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Which is used incorrectly.
Bad writing is simply bad writing. An OP character is simply that.
Meant that people who donât like characters call them Mary Sue. It has nothing to do with the gender.
Itâs just people.using the term incorrectly when they donât like a character.
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Of course because the definition only applies to females i literally posted the Oxford definition of Mary Sue. So using it to describe males is a misuse of the word. That doesnât make it or you sexist.
Boohoo someone doesnt like Sylvanas and suddenly a cinematic is bad. I absolutely loved the Shadowlands cinematic. Sylvanas kicking Bolvars butt was absolutely fenomenal.
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Well my mistake on that
Anyway Sylvanas is really fitting the bill, you could say the character has flaws, but the issue comes when said character barely gets affected by said flaws
She wouldnt fit if:
We saw her grow stronger rather than just getting a sudden power boost.
She suffered more from her mistakes.
But right now she has an absurd plot armor.
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Shadowlands her walking up to the Lich King and beating him with ease is rather disappointing this is a guy where we needed the Ashâbringer to take out who we canât really be left for dead because he keeps a swarm of unruly zombies in check and she just walks in and beat him like a lv 120 trying to farm Invincible for the 300 time at least KelâThuzad wasnât there to see this mess.
Having absurd plot armor still doesnât fit the definition. She still has flaws, even if you donât believe theyâre addressed properly. And sheâs still not the personification of the author.
Now⌠Nathanos? That we can actually debate about whether or not heâs a Gary Stu. Because he has no flaws, lives through everything, and Iâm pretty sure heâs an author insert. Though I donât know enough about his character and would have to research a bit more first.
Bro not to sound mean she literaly was cold blood killed and then raised from the dead and rejected by everyone she loved. If thats not enough strife for you then you go watch someone die irl and see if you feel postive and optimistic or for that matter sane. She deserves the boosts she got from banshee queen to warchief, she is def a cool character from wc3 to bfa shes and her conflict with saurfang are literally the only saving grace of this game bruh. At least for the horde side of the story.
In my opinion. The sl cinematic made no sense but atleast it was a fancy hd cinematic that looked cool.
The 8.3 nzoths defeat specially the parts involving our characters and the copy paste of sarons death not only made no sense but just flat look awful.
Bfa is overall the worst expac ever to me.
The author thing doesnt fit has much anymore tbf, self insert or not a character can still be a Mary Sue
If i recall it was more that it was perceived it was self insert but not that it was 100% one
Has for Nathanos, definitely his a Gary Stu, but i find funny how his voice actor appears to be having a blast
Thats the old Sylvanas which i loved, not the new one.
And even if the character wasnt born has a Mary Sue it can still become one.
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Yeap, bunch of incels downvoting it because they canât handle a woman in power.
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Mary sue sylvanas or mary sue character, ugh
Sylvanas didânt kill Bolvar because there was no need: she knew that he was only wearing the helm to hold the Scourges. She didânt kill Bolvar but she surely destroyed the Lich King!
No more LK, no more Scourges: they are a thing of the past and a threat no more. That cinematic was amazing!
En of 8.3: just before the end of our world, when all is doomed, mother find a way to focus the power of Origination, through your character and the hearth of Azeroth, right into NâZoth! Bam! (I bit like when Trall kill Deathwing with the focusing iris at the end of cata)
The end of Legions, end of the Scourge, end of Old gods corruptionâŚ
Blizzard can now focus on the future and develop new stories and enemies!
Void Elves should know that the Void will never win!
Surrender to Undeath and serve the Banshee Queen!