This is a fact? FF generates more positive feedback? a fact? huh.
Which speaks a lot about players leaving for FF14.
Yes. Have you already forgotten the perfect storm the lawsuits and bad game quality did for Blizzard and WoW?
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So our last numbers are WoD. Im pretty sure wasnt Blizzard touting high subs in Legion iirc? As well as SL having highest d1 sales? Realistically, the data is old and inconclusive by todays standards.
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So thatâs a fact? huh. lmao i guess. itâs a fact that FF generated more positive feedback? according to whom?
It says a lot more of how bad thoser servers were tbh. 20,000 per data center isnt a lot of people for a million+ sub game
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I canât believe so many fell for this easy bait. Itâs a good thing we donât have playable Jinyu, because youâd all be dead.
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Just look for official statements from FF14 and how they have been overrun. I donât say that game x or y is better, however, FF14 had an immense upwind because all of it and you need to accept that.
No. If youâre handling the servers, you try to keep the costs at an average. They were simply surprised by the avalanche, which is understandably. I donât think they can hold the numbers but back then it did a big number on WoW.
We would have had blademasters
They literally had these problems with Shadowbringer and Stormblood. They just didnt do anything.
At this point Iâm all for Blizz just reworking Arms into Blademaster.
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Our last numbers from Blizzard, whom have the actual, concrete data. It served them to release those numbers when they were high, but they stopped reporting them once they no longer looked good on those investor reports.
Since then weâve had only speculation. Good speculation looks at existing data to draw conclusions, while bad speculations relies on anecdotal evidence.
Pretty much all speculation tilts towards the sub numbers having plummeted. Engagement with the Hall of Fame, for example. Over the course of Shadowlands alone it has been absolutely horrible. Granted there is more to WoW than raiding, especially mythic raiding, but this is still available data that demonstrates a shocking trend.
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Iâm still trying to find the fact in any of this. but yea i play both games and both communities are pretty much the exact same. bad people in both. seems like any gaming community now that i think about it. or any community in the world. yeah iâd consider the two communities too similar to the point where i canât tell thereâs a diffference
Dont get me wrong, i completely agree with you. But the argument is one where one game has more than another where neither posts concrete data.
Except, thatâs not the argument at all. I havenât spoken about FFXIVâs sub numbers, at all. I only stated WoWâs numbers have been falling, and the only thing that will ever kill WoW, is Blizzard itself.
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FF14 combat feels terrible. If they ever make it feel half as fluid as WoW combat maybe Iâll give it a real try someday. The few times I played it the clunky combat and long GCD were a big no from me.
To be fair, a lot of that changes when you can do things inbetween gcds.
but yeah in general idk it feels sluggish.
Yeah WoW is definitely king when it comes to responsive combat. FFXIV wasnât built for PvP so it does feel clunky. PVE feels fine though.
and had a big downfall since, especially since their âper serverâ cap was lower than both versions of WoW.
Which, sadly, canât be proven especially now that thereâs classic bundled into it.
Tbh all the recent content droughts are doing more to kill WoW than any other outside/3rd party competitor like FFXIV
Itâs sort of a âslow death from withinâ caused by the dev team itself rather than falling to an outside competitor MMO, if that makes sense
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The 9.0 to 9.1 was definitely a killer for sure. That alone tanked the expac to only be followed by Korthia lol
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