World/Server First!

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You mean on this forum? I’m sure I don’t know if blizz has banned trollcalling. Regardless of that, it’s a form of ad hominem, and is thus a sign that the accuser is losing the argument.

If you want to report my comments, feel free, but don’t bother threatening me about it.

I cannot look something up if it doesn’t exist.

Remember, the post must satisfy my original request:

"Share with me the blue post that says they’re removing layering, fixing all the bugs, adding patch progression, and somehow removing players’ access to new addons new external tools, etc."

I assert that such a post does not exist. If you disagree, please provide evidence in the form of a link to said post.

Someone went back and liked my comments.

Do you know what this proves?

Nothing.

That’s the third time now. Even IF you were leaving, why bother declaring it?

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The stats are exactly the same. They’ve been extensively tested, there was even a major bug discovered with weapon modifiers. They’ve confirmed that all damage done and the stats are as they are in the reference client. That’s in the thread title ‘Not A Bug List.’

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Er… no they aren’t. We’ll be starting with the 1.12 stats, which are NOT what we had at launch.

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Now you truly are grasping. Nobody ever said you were getting launch version. Even my own posts have repeated it. 1.12 is what we’re getting, nobody was ever promised 1.0. I’ve never once mentioned launch. I’m clearly and correctly pointing out that completing 1.12 content in 2019 isn’t a first because 1.12 content in the exact same state from 2006 had been cleared. Not sure why you’re now dragging launch up, other than desperation.

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So are you telling me the stats are the exact same for classic as they were for when Ruined downed them?

Or can we count world first for every patch that occurred in vanilla since the experience of vanilla became different with every patch?

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Blizzard confirmed that during the beta testing, they’ve extensively tested the damage we do, the weapons do, the mobs do, what impact leeway has, everything. They’ve stated that everything matches up to the reference client for v1.12 which is the version we’re getting.

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That’s exactly what Ôwns was talking about.

We’re not getting the launch version. We’re getting a version with years of changes. It’s not even the same race.

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Where are you getting four years from, even that makes no sense. What you’ve just said makes no sense. If you’re told you’re getting 1.12 and they give you 1.12 then your are getting what you were promised. Any content cleared in the old 1.12 is already cleared and cannot be a first in 2019 because we are getting that exact same version, based on a highly tested reference client of that version with confirmation that there won’t be any changes to the content, classes etc. It’s literally the same version. As in been there, done that, got the t-shirt version.

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Your t-shirt doesnt say World of Warcraft Classic though :wink:

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I meant two years.

Did WoW release with version 1.12?

The same as the version that was around when the MC world first happened?

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How exactly is completing 1.12 content in 2019 different to completing 1.12 content in 2006 given that Blizzard have confirmed no changes to content, mechanics, classes etc., and only minor QoL/essential server changes? I don’t need an answer really, because the answer is there is no difference, it’s the same iteration of the game.

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You cant say minor QoL/essential server changes but try to claim its the exact same. It isn’t.

If it was the exact same we would all start with vanilla launch stats and continue down an authentic vanilla patch progression, but we aren’t.

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People didn’t just stop completing content when 1.12 dropped. Anyone who completed MC after 1.12 dropped, using your example raid, STILL completed it BEFORE 2019 1.12 ergo they were first, second, third etc., to complete it in 1.12. It’s up to you whether you consider earlier clears to be firsts or post 1.12 clears. Regardless of that opinion though the fact remains that people have already cleared 1.12 content and 1.12 is what we’re getting, so it’s been done.

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Did all of those world firsts happen during patch 1.12?

They’re radically changing content, mechanics, classes, etc by not having patch progression.

Layering is essential, but it is definitely NOT minor. Neither are all the changes to addons, to external references, to outside tools, etc

Also, this is a contradiction to your other statement:

It can’t be different and the same. Make up your mind.

And this STILL doesn’t address the fact that it doesn’t matter if it’s the same race. It’s a new race with new firsts.

And there will be first second and third etc to complete it in Classic (1.13). Those will be our “world first classic”.

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But nobody has even killed a wow classic kobold.

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You’re failing at word play and trolling. I’ve stated numerous times that the changes they’ve made have been non-gameplay impacting. There’s a big difference between QoL and game changing. Please stop making me repeat the same list about not changing classes, content etc.

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So if you played in 2006 can we get our 1.12 characters transfered to classic? With the same exact stats I had back then tho, cause you know, #nochanges and all that nonsense

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I’m afraid v1.12 kobold is a 1.12 kobold, period.

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Nobody wants to hear you repeat flawed arguments, yet you continue to do so.

Classic is a new race that will have a new set of world firsts. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch them.

It doesn’t matter if the race is the same or different. The world firsts will still be world firsts either way. And for the record, the race is going to be VERY different this time around.

And a v1.13 kobold will be a 1.13 kobold, period.

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Im willing to bet Ragnaros was killed in the alpha/beta… Why does Ruined get credit for world first if it was killed before they did it?

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