World/Server First!

No I will not be your unpaid research assistant. If you want to find them look them up yourself the onus is on you. I’ve quoted you facts from Blizzcon, which I attended, the evidence is in the streams, if you watch them. Layering does not impact game play at all, only community and Blizzard have, again if you bother to look, stated that it’s temporary.

You just made yourself look really ignorant when it comes to the entire project. I keep up with the posts, including the one on bug fixes and what aren’t considered bugs, you clearly do not.

I can say with complete confidence that “private server elitists” aren’t the only ones who will pay attention and think it matters.

I’m not a “private server elitist” and I’ll care and think it matters a bit.

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I would think there will be a big group of the raiding community paying attention to the world first classic kills. Wouldn’t doubt that twitch streams with the races will have quite the viewership

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Blizzard promised us an authentic vanilla experience. At no point did they ever offer or promise to tune each and every player to revert them back to their 2006 skill level. It’s ludicrous to expect them to change the entire game just to account for that. Then it wouldn’t be Classic would it, it would be Classic+ or WoW2.0. Blizzard has no control over player experience and skill level. They’re fulfilling what they promised, what we asked for.

This is a weird way of spelling “there is no such blue post”.

Provide it, or the point you were trying to make is overruled.

You’re a rube if you believe that it won’t impact gameplay. This is just as bad as constantly whining about how it’s going to destroy Classic.

It’ll exist when the first set of classic world firsts happen.

I know you’re upset with me, but you have no idea what I do and don’t keep up with, so be a dear and keep the ad hominem to a minimum.

The game is so riddled with bugs that it’s not hard to find people who suspect that either they won’t be fixed in time or classic won’t make the release date.

Blizzard promised me a pony.

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Well when molten core carries are being advertised week 2 remember thats what you asked for.

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Then you’re wrong.

I’m not doing your work for you, try actually opening your eyes and looking at the stickied threads. The joke would be on me if I wasted my time getting the links to prove you wrong - all at the top of the page - and you simply vanished from the forums because you couldn’t argue back. Then I’ve wasted my time and let you bait me into doing your dirty work.

Note that your posts have 0 likes whereas mine have likes. I think it’s clear who is talking out of their rear.

I’ve quoted Blizzcon and blue post facts, you’ve spouted nothing but emotional opinions and refused to actually look at the stickied threads at the top of the first page.

That doesn’t logically follow.

You said only the private server elitists will care. I said that I (who am not a private server elitist) care. Thus, your statement is objectively incorrect.

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I’m not upset in the slightest, you have literally no impact on me other than a desire to point out to you that being late to the party isn’t being first. If you notice the trend my posts are fact based, my opinions play no part in them. Yours on the otherhand deliberately ignore the facts, are insulting and now trolling.

When you have to resort to trolling you’ve lost the argument. Enjoy your delusions of grandeur. But always remember what Dr Erebos taught you: second follows first, third follows second, ten million and first follows ten million. Goodnight.

It’s up to you to provide evidence that such a blue post exists. I’ve read through the stickies and most of the blue posts. None of them said they would do any of that stuff.

No such statements exist. Thus you cannot provide any such links. Pretty straight forward.

LOL that might be a new logical fallacy. “Argument from forum points” :smiley:

From a long LONG personal history with blizzard I can tell you: blue posts are not necessarily factual.

You seem it, especially with the amount of furious typing and re-editing and the grasping at straws (especially the forum likes). The fact that you find insult in my comments is a “personal problem” as you phrased it.

All I see are a bunch of wrongheaded opinions and irrelevant argumentation.

Trollcalling is likewise a sign of a lost argument. If all you can do is say that I’m trolling, then you never had anything to begin with.

But if you want to leave it there, it’s up to you. Maybe I’ll revisit this thread when someone downs rag.

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Not one bit.

You ARE trolling. I do not engage with trolls once they’ve been revealed. You’re also trolling in as much as you know that it’s not possible for me to quote from a stream. All I can do is provide the link your the stream, but you can do the yourself, so there’s nothing for me to direct quote in text form.

I simply refuse to be your errand boy and waste my time copying and pasting countless posts because you are out of touch. It’s not my job to educate you, I’m not being paid to do so.

People wouldn’t like my posts if they disagreed with them. So yes, it’s a good measure. The fact that you have 0 likes clearly demonstrates that the people monitoring this thread don’t agree with you.

Therefore you have 0 credibility and we’re done. Goodnight.

Just remember, their position in the line will be determined by the position of the last group to clear that content, back over a decade ago.

Then you’re STILL wrong.

I mean, it’s been banned on many forums for decades because people constantly use it when they’ve lost an argument.

At least one of these statements is not true. I know for a fact that the first one isn’t true. I doubt the truth of the last one.

But logically if I’m a troll, then the second statement cannot be true because you’re actively engaging with me.

Since I know I’m not trolling, and since you are still engaging, this is nothing more than an attempt at trollcalling to lend imagined authority to your comments.

There is no such blue post, and thus you can’t produce it. The deflection didn’t work last time either.

You already said this. How many times are you going to declare that you’re exiting the conversation.

Just like the position of every marathon runner comes after the last place of the previous year’s marathon.

EDIT: because the above post continues receiving edits…

One person liked 3 of your comments. That shows that that person liked those comments. It says essentially nothing about the efficacy of either of our comments.

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It’s not banned, in fact there is an option to report people specifically for the act of trolling and it includes a definition. Rest assured the appropriate tag was selected for the appropriate offense.

It’s easy to sit there and refuse to look up easily accessible, common knowledge, demand someone else do it for you and then claim it doesn’t exist just because the don’t want to be your slave. It doesn’t work like that sorry.

I beg to differ. 0 likes clearly indicates that you’re uninteresting and that people don’t consider what your said to be of any value. Why else like mine and avoid yours?

Goodnight, it’s past YOUR bedtime troll.

Isn’t the burden of proof on you though?

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If it was a grey area perhaps but this is actually all really basic common knowledge from the Blizz Con streams which anyone can access, but I’m not putting in the effort to dig them out for some awkward person who has yet to provide a single fact and then had to resort to troll comments.

Do you really think once I’ve got all the links that he’s actually going to read them? Of course he’s not. He’s not interested in discourse, just stupid comments about ponies.

Are you conveniently ignoring this?

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I didn’t notice that but it’s a rather stupid thing to say.

Classic isn’t an annual event last time I checked, it doesn’t reset, the raid content doesn’t have seasons or leaderboards which reset. 1.12 was a set, solid, historical entity, that existed in a set state for x amount of time. This isn’t a continuation of that, it’s a replication, a recreation, a copy.

The two can’t be compared, and that’s attempt alone stinks of desperation.

But yet everything is reset… Everyone is at level 1… There is 0 copper in the communitys economy… There has been 0 damage done in classic so far. Everything is reset. The stats for classic launch are not the same as the stats for vanilla launch.

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