Personally, I hate the crafting revamp.
HATE.
It’s annoying and has taken way too much of my time to be bothered with it. The knowledge system is stupid and slow as beans on gathering profs.
They should have just made purple bop gear sellable on AH. Could still hunt down a crafter to have it made, could still make it for your alts, but none of this garbage of a system.
Ugh, it’s 730 am, I’m going back to sleep.
This would result in hard flipping, like we saw with shadowlands legendary base items.
Current system is great.
What’s the problem?
I should start selling eyeballs on the down low.
Apparently alot of people lack them.
I do this too.
I just hop on an alt, place 3 orders to this guy for those dirt digging shovels, then I just mail the shovels to this guy and I use them as I’m flying around gathering ore.
Quick, easy and useful.
I like this new system a lot. It’s made to basically stop people with an alt army from maxing out every profession unless they have an ungodly amount of free time to waste.
And even if they did do all professions on alts, sure they can level it to 100, learn all the available recipes but still not be able to max out most of the stuff. It’s a good thing, it allows everyone to get a piece of the pie instead of one or two people cornering the market on a couple alts.
What Blizz should have done was to have the base item be able to sell on the AH and have crests and sparks be slotted in by the buyer.
But then you would get back into the situation where crafted gear is not worth the mats it takes to craft it.
Everybody and their mother would be flooding the AH with base level gear, and competition would push the prices below what they cost in mats.
Crafting orders should automatically tie into the AH. Buyer creates an order request, game calculates how many items he needs and checks the AH, says how much his price would be. He then adds in how much he’d like to tip and he’s done. AH sellers get their money, crafter gets their tip, buyer gets his item without having to go through recipes and run to the AH and research the requirements for each one.
Not sure the tech is there for it but that would solve all these issues.
The idea was sound and has worked fine in other games. The problem is the clown-world execution Blizzard managed to pull off and their complete unwillingness to make even minor changes in a reasonable timeframe.
We had crafted gear like this in WoD, Legion, and Shadowlands. You could easily have soulbound upgrade reagents, with base pieces, missives, and embellishments sold on the AH.
But no, DF devs are devising entire systems to force more social interaction.
The entire purpose of work orders is to deal with BoP items, though. Which cannot even be placed on the AH.
People who are frustrated with work orders keep looking at work orders as a money thing.
Work orders are NOT a money thing. Work orders’ sole purpose is as a means for Blizzard to resolve this question: “How do we let people make crafted gear, using their soulbound materials, if they don’t have the appropriate profession?”
That’s it.
That’s why work orders exist.
Everything about them flows from that. (Except the handful of BoE items that for some bizarre reason can also be made, which was stupid and Blizzard should remove them from the system.)
they aren’t just hitting a button though - if that is all it took you would be able to do it yourself. there is the investment, and time it took to be able to hit that button. and if you don’t like that 5k charge then find someone else - you may find it takes even more than time and investment.
I legitimately have never posted an order without buying the mats for it. Frankly, if someone does that, they are actually terrible, and won’t be getting the order filled. Sucks to be them, that’s all there is to it.
I can max out everything on all professions. I have been keeping up with the weekly profession stuff each week and will have all professions maxed out with knowledge points too at some time in the future.
I don’t do anything else in the game except professions though.
I strongly suspect most people didn’t try to sell stuff on all alts before - I sure didn’t. I end up making more gold with each profession this expansion than I usually do. Although my total gold for time spent is obviously very much less.
There is a very good add on called No Mats No Make. As the name indicates, it allows you to filter out any order that requires you to supply any mats.
And even without that, the game provides warnings that a person would have to be unconscious to miss when starting an order that does not provide mats from the customer.
The real answer to that question was very simple. STOP MAKING BOP MATS! -_-
Dunno, maybe the bulk of people who have stopped crafting themselves after 15+ years of enjoying doing so or the mass of people refusing to place work orders at all because of how annoying the system is?
Meh. When I supply mats, I only ever tip 1g. Hasn’t been an issue for me yet.
BoP mats to allow crafting BoP items for current season high-end gear is fine, adding BoP mats or items to anything other than heroic+ levels of gear though is just stupid (like the Titan things to craft leveling gear or last season’s sparks or to craft adventure level gear).
Also, public work orders should have the ability to set quality levels.
I get what they were going for, the comission cover all mats but they should put a minimum comission at like 10k or something.
Then everybody would select 5 stars and nobody could even attempt them because you can’t attempt a work order unless you can guarantee the result without inspiration or illustrious insight.
There’s even that mandatory quest where you have to explain to that undead guy with the top hat what the benefits are of personal work orders.
Then crafting gear will have to be useless again, just like it was through most of WoW’s lifespan.
Crafting gear is currently in the best shape it’s ever been in, in WoW’s history. Most of the highest-ilvl gear being worn in the game, right now, is from crafting.
Can’t do that without BoP mats.