With near universal approval can we get a response about dual spec please

No thanks. K bye.

If you’re hoping for fixed it’s never gonna happen. Is dual spec better? Absolutely. What is the downside? That it wasn’t in original tbc?

Dungeons and raids- major tank and healer shortage. You can spend hours waiting for one of these classes. Does dual spec fix this? No but it helps tremendously. Downside??

Arena and bgs- you cannot freely queue when your partners are around because you also have to worry about being raid spec on certain days. This only gets worse as the expansion gets deeper in. You can’t arena competitively as pve spec. Nor are bgs as fun. Dual spec solves this and allows more people to queue more often which increases participation without having to full commit with respeccing. Any arena player currently playing knows how big of a pain it is to play when you also raid. Downside???

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“I don’t want dual spec because my wife isn’t everything I want her to be.”

:rofl:

Disagree – we like class identity. Game also needs gold sinks. Stop pretending your opinion is shared universally.

That’s funny. It helps a tiny amount, if at all. Original expacs and retail prove this. People that like to tank, already tank. Nobody dual specs to a tank. Most of the time it’s used for a pvp and pve spec, or even 2 different pve or pvp specs.

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I’m a druid no matter what I spec. My identity is secured.

Yup, need to give people more incentives to buy gold. Means we should institute the WoW Token soon too for anyone who gets tired of farming to support their gameplay.

The numbers say that the community overwhelmingly wants this:

What does this statement have to do with the original question?

Lack of dual spec is not a bug…!!!

What does them fixing or not fixing bugs have to do at all with dual spec?

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It was in response to someone who said they wanted bugs in the game.

Any blue poster has the blues and can’t post.

Yes, I did play TBC, though it’s weird to constantly be told I didn’t simply because of my opinion.

Things are much different now. The players are different.

On Netherwing (TBC private) trade chat and lfg chat were basically whisper quiet and the group finder tool was almost exclusively used by everyone for groups.

People understand the usage and importance of tools like these today.

Blizzard is IMPROVING the tool and fluffing up the interface to make it even more usable for 2021 standards.

Group forming grievances will be greatly alleviated with its addition, to the point that the argument that dual spec is needed for group formation will be laughably pathetic, more than it already is.

On the other hand, barely anyone is still doing dungeons, so trying to change TBC to cater to those people would be silly anyway, but again, we all know this isn’t about helping people, it’s about helping yourself.

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We get it. You are not a real fan of Tbc and will gladly watch the game die for “reasons”. This is cult like behavior.

When did I call it a bug?

People would use it for all kinds of things. Imagine being able to play more of the game!

You didn’t. People just aren’t reading the thread properly and keeping up with who said what in reference to whatever.

Ah, you want to completely rip out the innards of what TBC actually was and replace it with something completely different, and I’m the one that isn’t a fan of TBC lmao OK.

The game won’t die. People aren’t quitting en masse due to no dual spec, in fact we haven’t had dual spec and according to the earnings report we’re doing fine.

Your point is objectively proven wrong.

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No.

#SomeChanges

Drama queen!!

The game has been dyeing since 2004. According to these forums.
The second you claim, “the game is dying” because of “insert reason here” you lose all credibility. Just another TROLL

That response wasn’t to you. Reading comprehension maybe!?

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Blizzard said this about Tinnitus… “Having identified a clear issue(with drums), we naturally look for changes that were made at the time to address the problem. Tinnitus is exactly such a fix. It was added to the game in the very next major update after the Sunwell patch.”

There is a difference between things added at some point later in retail, and things that were added in the next patch to address overwhelming complaints. I was responding to someone who said “TBC was just fine as it was”. When, just like Tinnitus, dual-spec was added to address issues from TBC.

I played TBC, and part of the reason respec costs became such a big deal in TBC was because of the very tight-tuning of TBC raids, and how every class/spec got a special buff/debuff that was in-effect necessary. If anyone in your guild missed a raid, someone had to respec. If someone left your guild, someone had to respec.

Furthermore, the raid meta necessarily created a tank shortage because raids aren’t designed for five tanks. Let alone that tanks/healers couldn’t farm for the money for consumables in their raid specs, whereas DPS can.

Blizzard added dual-spec because of the persistent uproar from the playerbase who felt like the old system was unfair, restricting, and ultimately boring because it made it hard to play the game.

I don’t want TBC’s “issues” to be addressed because those “issues” are features of TBC that are inherently important to experiencing TBC (as close to it as possible).

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I was responding to someone who said that people wanted to play TBC “imperfections and all”. I recall from the infamous Blizzcon,“You think you do but you don’t”… Where Brack discusses how “that bug that drove you crazy, it is still there, in the past”.

It was the only thing he said I agreed with. No one wants bugs.

After my comment, ten people took the time to say “dual-spec isn’t a bug”. I agree, and I never claimed it was. This is my actual stance.