With near universal approval can we get a response about dual spec please

[Redshadowz-heartseeker]

Am I wrong?

[Kathandira-netherwind]

As a Customer Service Professional. I’ve learned that unhappy people complain, while happy people remain silent. Getting positive survey responses isn’t as common as negative responses by far.

When reviewing surveys, you can expect roughly a 25% response rate. Only about 5% will actually provide written feedback, while the rest will rush through it and only fill out the multiple choice satisfaction options.

If you look at the forums as a place for people to provide their feedback in respect to their satisfaction with the product/service they received, we are only seeing about 5% or less of the player base.

With that said, feedback on the forums should be taken lightly. Considered perhaps, but not taken seriously.

[Riger-arugal]

@Redshadowz-heartseeker

Not because they wanted to play a buggy game.

Lack of Dual spec isn’t a bug.

[Kathandira-netherwind]

I’d say you are wrong. The game is plenty healthy from where I see it. My server is still bustling. People are out questing, doing dungeons, raiding, and PvP together. I’m still making new friends in PuGs, and meeting people out in the world.

But that may be because our server is in really good shape community wise.

[Redshadowz-heartseeker]

@Kathandira-netherwind

we are only seeing about 5% or less of the player base.

Which was exactly my point.

[Redshadowz-heartseeker]

@Kathandira-netherwind

The game is plenty healthy from where I see it.

I used to play on a very small private server and I was perfectly happy there, but I still understood it was a small server that was slowly shedding players. People would be spamming how it is a “dad server”. Which got people all worried. Which then caused a panic that led to the server actually dying.

So have you not noticed your server losing players? Are people not making dire predictions in your world chat? Is no one talking about transferring off?

Netherwind is more than 2-1 alliance-dominated. Which means you are more imbalanced than Skeram was before the alliance transferred off. And more imbalanced than Herod was before TBC.

I just queued for BG’s a sec ago. There was only 1 AV, 1 WSG, 1 EOTS, and a few AB… I think that is fewer people in BG’s than I have ever seen, even in Classic.

For that matter, Vanilla Classic is completely unplayable. SSC/TK should have been out already. Horde have insane PvP queues. Almost every server is dying, dead, or horribly imbalanced. And you think the game is healthy?

[Kumasama-westfall]

@Zipzo-atiesh

this is subjective

The fact that more people want it than don’t is objective.

We have data on this:

The TBC Classic Community wants Dual Spec

Blizzard, you said you’d work with the community on the types of QoL changes they’d like to see in TBC Classic. Dual Spec is the most talked about change and the consensus is clear, the players want Dual Spec. Nethaera: Why are we allowing players to dual spec after all this time? Ghostcrawler: We really felt like this was a great way to increase the flexibility available to players and encourage them to take part in more aspects of the game. To use just one example, some players like to pa…

I’d ask you for data that shows otherwise but you don’t have it. If you did, you wouldn’t have to resort to saying this was “subjective” because the only out you have with regard to data proving you wrong is to say data doesn’t matter.

In which case you’re subjective too and you don’t matter. So, good job making yourself irrelevant.

@Zipzo-atiesh

To me

Yes, all changes begin and end with you. Sorry, I forgot.

[Nelgastos-windseeker]

The only people most likely that want dual spec are the spoiled retail players. In wrath along with the initial 1000g payment to get it wasn’t there also a cost for switching between specs?

BC was fine without dual spec first time around its fine this time around. Make some tank and healer friends. When u run pugs and the tank and healer did good request to add them to your friends list. Create a network in a memo and u won’t want dual spec.

[Kumasama-westfall]

@Nelgastos-windseeker

retail

@Nelgastos-windseeker

wrath

Loving the cognitive dissonance!

[Aresia-altar-of-storms]

@Rotationn-illidan

Like the title says. DS is by far one the most popular features real fans of TbC want. Would love to get a blue response about how you feel about the idea.

Title is very misleading. A lot of the forum dwellers are in support of dual spec, but did you know only around 2% of the WoW player base visits the forums? Near universal approval equates to 1.8% of the player base that we can account for… yes that is definitely the majority.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Nelgastos-windseeker

BC was fine without dual spec first time around its fine this time around.

It’s fine is not synonymous with it would be better

[Celestré-pagle]

Yes please!! Dual spec would be welcome

[Murderkitteh-westfall]

Dual spec would be very welcome for my druid play experience!

[Redshadowz-heartseeker]

@Nelgastos-windseeker

BC was fine without dual spec first time around its fine this time around.

The reason dual-spec exists is because people complained in TBC.

[Salmoonfire-grobbulus]

People against dual spec are exactly why retail wow looks like it does now. You might as well say ‘no I don’t want more tanks and healers doing dungeons or more players participating in pvp/pvp events.’

And don’t give me the crap of ‘oh it wasn’t in original tbc’ that’s such a tired argument that does not help the actual health of a 15 year old expansion in today’s environment.

There’s a reason why devs don’t really read the forums and that’s because it’s exactly like this forum post. You can’t tell what the people actually want and what would be absolutely a positive thing for almost every aspect of tbc with almost no negative effect outside of classic purists egos

[Riger-arugal]

@Redshadowz-heartseeker

The reason dual-spec exists is because people complained in TBC.

So why even bother recreating TBC if everything people complained about and got “fixed” later gets patched into it? Just play the “fixed” version of the game.

Why not have all the benefits of all the later “fixes” and new content to boot? Retail → It “fixes” all the problems with all the older versions and also has new stuff to do, it’s even covered in your subscription - go for it.

[Kathandira-netherwind]

@Salmoonfire-grobbulus

People against dual spec are exactly why retail wow looks like it does now. You might as well say ‘no I don’t want more tanks and healers doing dungeons or more players participating in pvp/pvp events.’

In retail, you can change specs anytime you want. Is the Tank/Healer problem fixed?

[Riger-arugal]

@Kathandira-netherwind

Is the Tank/Healer problem fixed?

Well to be fair - it is somewhat. Though this was mainly due to the introduction of role adaptive stats on gear. You have one set of gear and the stats on the gear activate to those optimal for the role based on your choice of role at the time. Perfect fix - boring AF but solves the problem.

Sometimes a good game is a flawed game. That’s why people flocked to classic - because even with its flaws and asymmetries it was more fun and engaging - heck sometimes because of them.

When I was a teen a had a list of stats that made the perfect girlfriend. I met a person who fit - we had fun for a week and then I got bored and dumped her. My wife doesn’t fit my list at all. Sometimes perfect isn’t what we want even though we think we do.

[Salmoonfire-grobbulus]

So you don’t think it helped??? Don’t kid yourself

[Kathandira-netherwind]

I don’t know. I don’t play retail. Is it fixed?