Wintergrasp can go to Hell

PVP Battlegrounds
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I’m probably okay with the vehicle stuff for two reasons:

  1. The game’s based off the RTS, where you often controlled tanks and catapults and crap (eg: the Meat Wagon mount)
  2. It’s PVP - “player versus player”, not CVC - “character versus character”. The players are still there controlling things and competing against one another. Just because it’s a player not just controlling a digital avatar, but a player controlling a digital avatar controlling something else doesn’t remove the “player”.

It’s still PVP by definition, even if you don’t like it. WoW was never promised to be CVC, in fact it’s not even a thing.

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AV has been in play almost from the beginning of wow. I myself have never seen a lot of posts asking for WG or Ashran Until Blizzard announces that there were incorporated it.

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That’s just wonderful!

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I saw a few for each, and it’s not like I see everything. Was on break when WG was current, but people said good things so I looked forward to it. Ashran I am/was pretty meh on but people did ask for it.

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Me and Gdtroll and a few other or asking for Southshore vs. Tarren Mill to get put in the Epic Any chance of that. :wink:

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They don’t just go by these forums. There’s also Twitter and other forms of suggestions.

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Just going to leave this here… :slight_smile:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20768767180

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Yea, there was a lot of enthusiasm about it just ere in the forums. Never mind all the other ways to give feedback.

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Yes 100%

There are a few people on this board that think this board is a majority. It’s not. These forums are a very small subset of players, often the vocal minority, that think by posting the same thing will make something fact.

Blizzard has metrics, stats and means for feedback way beyond this board. They can see how many people specific queue. They can see how many people replay content. They get data on how many people abandon battlegrounds. Just because some people keep posting the same rhetoric across multiple threads does not make something a consensus.

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As much as I loved it back in the day I don’t like the brawl implementation

There’s no strategy or even objectives. It’s just a giant team deathball match

I suppose it’s fun if you’re ranged.

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:+1:

I know right?

Southshore vs Tarren Mill really is better suited to a “regular” epic bg in the rotation… it’s simple, fun, and your average casual likes it.

Wintergrasp really is more suited to an occasional once-in-a-while “brawl”, it’s just so gimmicky with the vehicles and such - it detracts too much from PvP imo.

And of course, the average casual seems to dislike WG judging by all the moaning and groaning I regularly see in the chat. And also all the AFKing out that commonly happens in WG :thinking:

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Your point? There is nothing wrong with ^ this

Personally I :heart: giant “deathball vs deathball” PvP, it’s a lotta fun and I can’t get enough of it :ok_hand:

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Yeah it’s a fun nostalgia thing but it literally has no strategy whatsoever.

WPVP in Southshore back then had strategy to it. People went in buildings, ran around and flanked you, but none of that is here. It’s just Frieght Train A ramming headfirst into Freight Train B. Whichever one has the biggest “motor” wins.

I’m RDPS so I’m getting the most fun out of it as is possible and I think it gets pretty boring.

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I think that was a record; horde took WG in about five minutes.

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My record is 7 mins, IIRC. I wasn’t leading that one, but my mentor was.

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Yea, my record is 7 minutes as well.

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I was in one WG a little bit ago that was pretty rough. It felt like what other people say Alliance ones feel like.

Some other guy had party lead and was willing to use it, so I just rolled with it. He made a few bad calls and we almost threw the game.

It was pretty draining, needed a break after that.

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Just doesn’t fit in well with BGs where every single one has some sort of objective (s) Also, ssvtm is not very melee friendly.

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SS vs TM is terrible if you’re melee.

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Imagine that as sixty percent of your BG experience and you get the Alliance.

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