Wintergrasp can go to Hell

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Take this pos BG out of the Epic rotation. No one likes it. Its an auto deserter debuff for 90% of the Alliance. The worst BG should have stayed a brawl. I dont want to spend 30 mins in a vehicle.

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Itā€™s my fave atm. Were you defending in that game just a moment ago where we clown-split and wiped at SR, yet rallied and broke through west?

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Wouldnā€™t this cause WG to pop that much more often for alliance if more and more people /afk out of it?

If all three epic bgs are popping 1/3 of the time each yet WG requires 3 times the amount of players due to desertersā€¦

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I actually love this BG, I just wish Alliance knew how to play itā€¦

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You must not play epics often, because I see Alliance regularly mass-ragequit out of Wintergrasp, itā€™s an epidemic :grimacing:

I myself leave this one like 95% of the time regardless of playing as Horde or as Alliance

No thanks! Itā€™s a far better use of my time to just requeue on an alt until either AV or IOC popā€¦ long drawn-out WG losses where the team is scattered all over the map/has no idea what to do just donā€™t interest me.

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I donā€™t believe you read my post.

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I honestly donā€™t know what Allyā€™s problem is. Itā€™s a very simple map, and I literally watch them screw it up 9 times out of 10.

In fact, in the last WG we were the ones that screwed up. But we won anyways.

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From what I see, Alliance simply gets out-killed and out-damaged by a fairly significant margin in most teamfights, so it seems harder for Ally teams to get ā€œrankā€ in the first place because they generally get beat down whenever the 2 deathballs clash.

Now, how much of this sizable margin difference in killing blows/damage done is due to gear/iLvL and how much is due to player skill is hard to tell. It does seem like Horde generally focuses healers more/harder than Alliance during the big teamfights, so maybe thatā€™s part of it.

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We always get multiple people calling multiple strategies regardless of the bg and we seem to have a bigger base of weaker players than horde.

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I donā€™t know about that, tbh. Remember in WG the attacking team starts with a 15% damage buff that (can) shift to the defenders. From what I have seen it seems like a strategy/coordination issue.

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Then donā€™t. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Only, like, twelve of you can even occupy a vehicle at one time out of forty.

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More than that if you include ranged DPS (like him) in the passenger seat. You can freecast on the move without risk of interrupt, what caster wouldnā€™t like that?

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The vehicle count can reach 24 - more than half the raid size.

The BG sucks - Alliance dont win here. Its not fun. Ive lost 30+ in row.

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Whoosh.

I understand that itā€™s possible for a team to have a higher or lower max vehicle count. My point is that even in the case of the maximum, you donā€™t have to be in one if you donā€™t like it.

I often see a line of people at the shop waiting for a vehicle to go down so they can jump in. Let ā€˜em.

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Agreed, this bg is just so boring overall

WG comebacks are rare from what Iā€™ve seen, so far Iā€™ve only seen Horde ā€œmake a comebackā€ from mistakes or losing the first teamfight.

If Alliance loses the first teamfight the mass-ragequits begin soon after, I have yet to see Alliance recover from a rough start in this bg

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I havenā€™t seen the ā€œmass exodusā€ of players from Wintergrasp at the beginning or after the first team fight that others are reporting. Is this actually happening or is this another ā€œAV favors Allianceā€ myth that people think repeating it often enough will make it true?

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My friend Wintergrasp has done way more than just gone to hell. IT IS HELL

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Hell has frozen over indeed

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I like WG a lot. Itā€™s fun, but it does get really annoying when I join the game late. When this happens the game is usually a loss and thereā€™s always like 30 minutes left on the clock. 30 minutes of people running around like headless chickens, swearing at each other isnā€™t fun. This happens way too much for me because this BG is like such a revolving door BG. Like most of my WG are games that have already started, got to a point where one side has no hope of winning and peeps start porting out and I wind up replacing one of these peeps. When this happens I usually port out as soon as I enter the game because the very low rewards for losses in these games are not worth the half an hour wait.

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I donā€™t know. I do look at the shift-spacebar scoreboard to get a player count throughout a match and what Iā€™ve seen seems to support the idea. Usually after the first team fight Alliance will usually drop to 35-37 players.

One morning (low traffic time) I saw it drop to 19, I am not kidding. I was actually concerned weā€™d get the ā€œnot enough participants, match will end in 2 minutesā€ warning.

Edit: My mistake, it was actually 14. Was a pretty uneventful half hour from that point on. https://imgur.com/a/rL057u7

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