Windwalker is Looking Incredibly Doomed for 10.2

when im in a blizzard hating my class competition and my opponents a monk :worried:

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The spec that had nine procs (some of which are tied to the same button) received a tenth proc in the form of 10.2 tier which does not stack and your solution to community feedback was to
buff the proc chance? You’ve added RSK cooldown reduction to a button that already has a chance to reset RSK. This spec will spend the entire tier mitigating a ridiculous amount of RNG and it will feel awful, just like every player on this forum has said since this tier set’s inception. If some guilds did not rely on this spec for the three monk raid buffs, it would have zero representation in a mythic environment. It’s not fun, and it’s not powerful. Please listen to your players.

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Replying to bump again. Read above if you want to see the dozens of reasons this tier and recent tuning are an insult to every single person playing this spec.

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The spec could see a 20% damage aura buff and still be middle of the pack LMAO.

It’s so far behind that the only excuse from developers is negligence.

edit: added a LMAO because I just walked outside and looked up at the clouds and had a laugh at this fecal situation

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When WW’s AoE is worse relative to the competition than its ST there must be quite the disturbance in the force. That was WW’s biggest redeeming quality for two expansions.

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I’m going to add a post every day until something happens:

Day 1, talent row 1 -
Fists of Fury should not cost 1 point. That is a baseline ability and Blizzard knows it. It’s literally the animation when selecting monk on the character select screen. Changing this would allow for more node variety in the first talent tier of the spec tree.

#ReworkWindwalker

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the reason why ww’s aoe seems so bad is because they over nerfed it and gave developer notes when buffing rising sun kick and fists of fury main target damage by 5% per patch “we notice that wind walker is under performing but to make sure their aoe doesn’t get out of control we are carefully bringing them up!”

then you look at their performance on said aoe fights and they are average - below average and not even mentioning to get good aoe they have to give up all their st talents for aoe talents that dont do anything on single target, what a greatly designed tree

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Well, looks like I’m gearing up other classes to raid, was hoping for something before the weekend but instead they just showed that they don’t want people playing WW by giving a sub 2% “buff” to make us still over 5% below the next lowest spec.

Terrible Single Target, terrible AoE, terrible gameplay design. You can have 1, you might be able to get away with 2 being bad if you’re a Warrior. You can not have all 3 be terrible.

The most mobile class in the game should not be locked down into one spot by Tiger Statue and Faeline Stomp. I would say 80% of our AoE should not be dominated by pressing a button twice once an enemy hits 15%, but they would read that as ToD needs to be gutted and we’d really have nothing left.

Thankfully, we keep getting our biannual +5-10% RSK buff, too bad we need a new one or 10 to be even remotely viable in content outside of World Questing.

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At this point it can’t just be a numbers buff. WW needs a rework. The whole class could probably use it.

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Devs, please do something about WW Monks. Things are not good right now.

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Day 2, Talent Row 2

Touch of Karma is fine, good placement

Ascension is fine placement-wise. We could see this buffed. Possibly add a 2nd point to increase chi by 2, just like how rogues can have 7 combo points. This would add to our burst potential by storing up even more chi.

Power Strikes - This could be buffed, maybe combine Touch of the Tiger into this talent. Also make it occur every 10 seconds instead of every 15 seconds.

#ReworkWindwalker

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Yup this common misconception that WW has good AoE is always funny to hear. This spec hasn’t had good AoE since Shadowlands. Windwalker was singlehandedly carried by the old Calculated Strikes conduit throughout the entirety of SL. It would’ve been atrocious then too if that conduit didn’t exist.

But now in Dragonflight, the spec seems to be balanced around this idea that we are good at AoE. But this spec has awful high target AoE, so much that, like I mentioned before, our single target is actually better statistically than our AoE.

Hopefully Blizzard realizes that just these intermittent small 3% buffs will not suffice. A quite large aura buff will be necessary. I also like the idea of doing what they did for evoker, where they increased the Mastery Scaling ratio, as that would also set us up better for future tiers. A combination of this alongside an aura buff would at least put WW in a respectable spot damage wise. Otherwise, a lot of WW players will be enjoying a bench POV this tier.

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Rank 1 mythic allstars to bench angle :rofl:

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these are the same dev that caused massive rippled in holy paladin playstyle since pandaria, haha. no wonder monk is always in messy place, see the “start with strong and nerf later” DOESN’T WORK!!!. Mistweaver was one of the strongest heal in siege of dr whOrc, i think that’s the only note worthy for them.

I started playing WoW in late TBC, and I’ve seen a lot of expansions and major content patches.

This is the first major content patch where I’ve felt like I have nothing to look forward to.

We need tuning really really really bad and it’s incredibly concerning that nobody at Blizzard can see this.

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Just unsub guys. Blizzard is serving you a s*** sandwich. If you continue to play then you are part of the problem.

We have provided feedback upon feedback and it is all blazenly ignored.

Blizzard are not stupid. Someone has looked at the spec, seem that it was garbage, seen that nobody on the dev team had the slightest idea how the spec works, and instead of acting on that knowledge have decided that you are dumb enough to keep playing if they just stay silent.

At this point how can you play the game with the knowledge that you are being openly disrespected?

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Bumping till we pumping

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But are you really?

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Blizzard it’s me. Go ahead and buff WW.

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The Monk tree being fixed would help all three specs a lot. Not sure why they insisted on forcing the statues as capstones when they also decided to use a bunch of the old powers like FLS and BDB for the 3 specs
 also a bit strange to me that Brm is the only spec that doesn’t have FLS stomp when tank is the only role that has some control of where stuff is standing.

Its a bit odd to me that they made nearly everything about monk a talent including having more than one roll (really?) and somehow all three specs are loaded with abilities.

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