It’s sorta a question i suppose has to be asked at some point cause for the forsaken to exist they need to raise dead, they can’t commit themselves to a slow extinction, so i suppose it would just become a matter of cultural identity
on the one hand, i understand horde players who’ll feel slighted by silvermoon becoming even partially faction-neutral (though i do think it’s just desserts to an extent after the neutral night elf hub). on the other, as a current alliance main i’m kinda eager; silvermoon aesthetically is one of my favorite cities in the game, and i love eversong quite a lot
Not what I asked.
When did the bronzebeards commit genocide?
Was it the bronzebeards who killed the entire stonespire tribe or was that a different set of dwarves, i know they kill baby trolls
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They don’t need to raise new dead.
They need to raise old dead in new bodies when they get defeated.
It’s rad, and it makes forsaken TERRIFYING.
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The Stonespire tribe was completley wiped out by dwarven gryphon riders firebombing the Barrens.
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Not with the Alliance Bias in this narrative.
Even when they are being genocided, they have some Moon God making it painless.
I guess that depends on your definition. I would argue Bel’ameth is not neutral because it allows Horde in. It functions as though it was neutral, but that is game mechanics. Lore it is not neutral.
Similarly, I am pretty confident Silvermoon will let Alliance in (though it is still speculation). But that wont make it neutral. It may function that way for game mechanics, but it wont be neutral.
I don’t think I would word it that way. “Just desserts” implies something they did making them deserve it.
It takes some real flat earth level thinking to say being the target of a genocide is evidence of Alliance bias.
i guess i see what you mean. ‘functionally neutral’ was probably the qualifier i could’ve tacked on to better describe my point. i haven’t tried to visit the night elf hub on a horde character, but i will say if the npcs are friendly to you, i do think the idea of ‘lore factional’ becomes a smidge irrelevantm
this was obviously irony I assume. The actual alliance bias is the Horde losing all it’s leaders and get their cities turned into raids.
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They are not openly hostile. But I would not say friendly either. The biggest effect is that on entering the city Horde characters get a debuff that says they are being watched and have to behave. Beyond that, unless I missed something, the Horde PCs are mostly just ignored.
Based on how they have done ‘functionally neutral’ Horde in the past, I actually expect Silvermoon NPCs will actually be more aggressive to the Alliance than Bel’ameth NPCs are to Horde. But we will have to wait and see. Keep in mind, Silvermoon being open to Alliance is still speculation. Pretty likely, imo, but still not confirmed. So, naturally everything else is speculation after that.
I could just as easily say ‘the actual Horde bias is the Horde players raiding Alliance cities in quests and the nuking of Alliance cities.’
The problem is you are declaring bias based on you not liking a story arc. Not liking the arc is fine, calling it bias is wrong. If you don’t like a story that is fine. You can dislike the direction they take all you want. There is nothing wrong with that. Just stop pretending you are a victim of Blizzard trying to hurt the Horde.
That is wrong:
After the first few reintroductions, things flowed much more smoothly and swiftly. Not all the reunions were joyful and easy as others, but they were talking. Forsaken and human were talking. Who could ever have believed this moment would happen? One man-one king-had.
Although i see that some of the humans have scorned interaction with those whose hope they had raised-Nathanos
Fair enough.
Who have the night elves genocide?
Where did it say they died painlessly? Genuine question.
Are you trying to say genocide is ok because there is a narrative bias?
In one of the short stories for BfA, it was said that elune heard the kaldorei prayers and eased their suffering and made it so they died painlessly
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The trolls.
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When?
Further, I’ll add if it’s because the trolls attacked the night elves (as trolls often used to do) and then the night elves had an overwhelming victory that’s not a genocide. That’s losing a fight you started.
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I’ll check it out. Thanks.
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Maybe I was wrong, but VERY 
language here.
Yes - please inform yourself before you spout off without knowledge, as you do
Avail yourself of that free media from Blizzard when the actual lore escapes you.
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