Liking nature and being around a Night Elf does not make you eligible to be a Druid.
So then why is Ironforge the Capital of the Dwarves?
Thank you captain obvious. I never said it wasn’t.
And they’re united now. Times change.
Dude this is literally achieving the exact same thing.
Yes because Ironforge Dwarves have never walked outside before.
Dude. Just stop with the Storm Hammers. Those are just Shamans.
And you’re just wrong about that. Ironforge is the capital of the Dwarves. Calling your character a Dwarf of Ironforge just says you’re representing all dwarves of the union. Heck that’s what the text says!
“Representing the stout and enduring dwarves of Ironforge…”
Anyways this conversation has gotten old. I’m happy we finally got playable Wildhammer Dwarves in Shadowlands and I’m excited to see what new and unique Allied Races we could possibly get next! Like Kyrian!
Clear culture interested in nature.
Clear path to druids who can teach it with access to Cenarius and his kin.
They’re very possible candidates.
It’s where they were originally from and when Moira tried to take it from the Bronzebeard the Wildhammer were understandably worried that hostile Dark Irons were seizing IF. That doesn’t mean they moved their whole people there…
Which is where almost all Wildhammer live. Aerie Peak/hinterlands and Twilight Highlands…
They have a council. The three clans will lead their own peoples separately. They just talk about what they’re doing…
No… It’s cosplay.
It’s Bronzebeard Dwarves with tatts.
They’re not Wildhammer.
Light have mercy.
They’ve spent their entire time for 230 years above ground. It’s prefectly reasonable to give them a muted stoneform.
No they’re not.
What is up with people getting that in their head?
You’re actually wrong. Bronzebeard are from IF. Wildhammer from Aerie Peak and DID from Shadowforge city.
I’m glad you’re happy with what blizzard is offering.
I’m going to keep asking them to add them.
Or an option to change their voice lines race moniker, get a Gryphon mount(partially optional) and racials modified so they can actually be a Wildhammer dwarf.
Extra points if they get druid in that setup.
Didn’t blizz say the SLs races were off the table?
Dark Irons and Wildhammers have their own capital cities.
United, but still culturally distinct, like the Dark Irons.
But not to the same extent as Wildhammers. And Bronzebeard Dwarves don’t stay underground to the same extent as Dark Irons either.
And? They can’t have a Shamanistic racial to reflect their connection to nature compared to Bronzebeard and Dark Iron Dwarves? You might as well be asking why Dark Irons have a fiery based Stoneform.
And yet Dark Irons still got a separate Allied Race even though they were technically in the same situation as Wildhammers.
And then the Dark Irons start in Shadowforge City just like Wildhammers could start in Aerie Peak.
I personally think Wildhammer Dwarves deserve their own Allied Race.
The biggest problem is how Allied Races where handled, I think their should of been sub races… for example you select dwarf then you select your clan within the dwarf race, Bronzebeard, Dark Iron and Wildhammer…
I personally think it’s horrible they just give Bronzebeard tattoos and call it a day, it’s so lazy, but then again this is Blizzard…
It just destroys even more lore, and Wildhammer Dwarves arnt something that popped out of no where like Void Elves, they’ve been helping the Alliance forever, I think it goes back to WC2.
I think Falstaad got the short end of the stick and it’s horrible.
My suggestion is when selecting Wildhammer tattoos, it changes the dwarves totems and race identity, let it just say Wildhammer Dwarf, a small change would definetly make a lot happy, even if they keep the same Racials as Bronzebeard.
Plus all core races do need updates on their totems, they look so horrible compared to allied races HD totems.
Edit: I know people are sick of re skins of dwarves and elves, but that’s Azeroth, these are the inhabitants and lore the game is based around…regardless Wildhammer Druids would of been great aswell and great for the Alliance…
I personally would of liked some Dev insight on making Wildhammer Dwarves just a customisation, while Dark Irons got the Allied Race treatment, especially with how popular Dark Iron Dwarves are. I’ll be honest with the flop of Kul’Tirans and Mechagnomes, seems like Wildhammer Dwarves would of been a great choice but that’s just me.
No, they aren’t. We are getting their tattoos and that is basically it. If you roll a Dwarf come Shadowlands and you elect to ignore Exiles reach which you can do if you are not a new player, you will start out in Iron Forge unless Blizzard have changed something meaning you are effectively a Dwarf of the Bronzebeard clan. The home or most centralized place Wildhammers live is in the Hinterlands and Twlight Highlands with some scattered here and there in other places like Outland and Kalmidor. So, unless blizzard has you start in say, the twilight highlands or hinterlands when you roll a Dwarf with their tattoos, you are, as I said, effectively a bronzebeard cosplaying as a Wildhammer.
They could still do something akin to this for Wildhammer and Farraki Trolls too. Add in the ability to select Wildhammer to change the racials and maybe get access to a modified heritage. Even a mount or a new class if they wanted.
It’s lazy and downplays the importance of the Wildhammer to the Alliance.
Aye. Wildhammer are too ingrained and important in the lore to be relegated to simple customization. It’s a shame.
I think this needs to be something that changes. Wildhammer wouldn’t have the same racials.
Since the totems of dwarves are based off of Wildhammer I’m not sure they need to change them. Though I’d like that.
ARs should always have given us the groups and races that already were a part of the Horde and Alliance. Then started focusing on new races.
I agree. I would love to know why they’re doing such an important clan dirty especially when they’ve already added the other two.
On a side note I’d like to see the Frostborn join up too.
Tell you what.
I’m sorry.
I honestly want to hear your input if you’d like to give it.
They’re Wildhammer man. Like it or not that’s what it is.
Because that’s literally what they are. It’s not a racial that allows them to throw a lightning hammer. That’s just they’re most well-known for, and why is that? Because Shamans are THEIR class! Falstad even casts Chain Lightning!
Actually I’m not. Yes the Dwarves are from different places but their capital is Ironforge. That’s literally why the Council of Three Hammers even exists. It’s to split the rule of the Dwarven Capital between the three.
Scottish is scottish.
You can go buy one from the Gryphon Seller in Stormwind.
Their racials all fit a Wildhammer. You want to play a shaman. You can do that.
False. They said there were none planned for the launch of Shadowlands because it wouldn’t make sense with the initial narrative.
That’s their cities, yes. The capitals of Dwarves is Ironforge though. Hence why the Council is situated there.
Yes and the only difference is their skin tone. Which… has been already added in WoD’s overhaul of Dwarves.
Because the fiery based stoneform is a result of Ragnaros.
Except they are biologically different.
Except they start in Exile’s Reach implying they did come from Aerie Peak.
That’s not how they became Druids.
Yeah but that’s for the sake of allowing people to go back. Canonically you are starting in Exile’s Reach now. Even then, a bunch of Wildhammer and Dark Iron do live in Ironforge.
You’re starting in Exile’s Reach. You can make up your own backstory from there. Also, again, people don’t understand this but Ironforge is the capital of all Dwarves. Yes, Shadowforge and Aerie Peak exist, but Ironforge is the true capital. Hence why it’s ruled by the 3 clans. Not just Bronzebeard.
But if you start a Dark Iron Dwarf, you start in Shadowforge City. Because that’s the capital of their clan.
Which they could have also done with Dark Irons, but they didn’t. Every complaint you make could be applied to Dark Irons, yet they were made into an Allied Race.
And Wildhammer Stoneform could be based on something else. You’re not even trying here. You’re just a Debbie Downer.
They’re biologically the same. You keep spouting “biologically different” even when the difference is as little as skin color.
Or they could have their own starting area instead of Exile’s Reach. Seriously, you are not even trying and I’m done talking to a brick wall built out of negativity.
Yes but they represent Ironforge and Shadowforge both.
Dark Iron were biologically different. And also, remember, at the time they obviously hadn’t planned adding Sandfury, High Elves, and Wildhammer in Shadowlands as just base options for the original races.
I’m not a debbie downer. Look at what you’re doing man! You’re complaining even though you got exactly what you wanted!
I’m sorry did you forget Fireblood and the mutations over hundreds of years in servitude to Ragnaros that the Dark Iron went through? Simple answer: they were different enough to be made into their own Allied Race.
Except literally every race has Exile’s Reach. You are getting exactly what you want through this. You call it “negativity” yet that is practically the opposite of what I’ve done here. I’m trying to tell you guys that you are technically getting Wildhammer, and that this is a good thing.
Starting in Exile’s Reach states you are in the Alliance military prior to starting, it says nothing about where you came from. Except for the part where it says you are representing the Dwarves of Ironforge.
Also, DID don’t start in Exile’s Reach. They start in Shadowforge City on Alpha, same as on live. They start at level 10, and move on to the Battle for Lordaeron, which happens at the same time as the Exile’s Reach questline, lore-wise.
It’s where the Bronzebeard capital is. Otherwise it’s just where the council of three hammers meets.
Wildhammer capital is Aerie Peak.
No its not. They don’t have their racials they don’t have their own mount heritage voice lines ect.
If DID LFD Mag’har HMT and such made sense as AR so do the Wildhammer.
Some of them are Shaman and it’s not the only class they have or are.
The Storm Hammers are a standard ability they’re well known for. It would be their active racial pretty clearly.
Yes you are. IF is the capital of the Bronzebeard. It’s also where the Council of the Three Hammers meet. It’s not the capital of the Wildhammer or the DID.
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They would have different words they’d say when you /silly or /charge or what have you. More appropriate to the Wildhammer.
It’s flavor stuff sure but important.
Yeah I’m talking about the unique one they’d get as an AR…
Wildhammer would have a different set of racials. Like their Storm Hammers and something to do with their gryphons.
Huh, well. Hope you get your Kyrians someday.
I’m gonna keep requesting the Wildhammer get their AR.
What we’re suggesting is they would potentially have a lessened stoneform because of their more above ground proclivities. Not to mention their reliance on spirits nature and such.
Blizz says otherwise.
No they became druids by learning from Cenarius. Something the Wildhammer could do… Cause they have pretty clear access to Night Elves and the Cenarion Circle.