Wildhammer Should Be An Allied Race

“They would have different racials because… reasons”

Wildhammer have zero connection to the Emerald Dream, nor do they have any Wild God to connect to. I’m not opposed to the idea though. It’s just not how it is right now.

Pretty much already in the game.

There’s a lot of Gryphons to pick from.

They sound identical.

You’re literally just repeating yourself at this point. Dude. Wildhammer are in the game.

So that’s why they’re a customization option instead. It’s the best solution and it makes perfect sense.

If that’s the case, they need to stop explicity calling PC Dwarves “Ironforge Dwarves” all over the place.

It was in your thread I got the idea for the gryphon wild God… Or a thread with you?

Since the Darkspear got their druid connection in between expacs Wildhammer could too.

Heritage for Bronzebeard Dwarves. Not Wildhammer…

AR gets a special mount… Jeez.

sigh

You guys really don’t have to pretend you don’t get it.

Not playable.

Doesn’t give them anything. It’s just Bronzebeard Dwarves with tatts.

And that’s why PC Dwarves are called…

Dwarves.

Maybe after some buildup sure. But not out of nowhere.

Again, pretty much already in the game.

Except I do get it. You’re just creating reasons that aren’t real.

Yes they are. It is a Wildhammer Dwarf. The sooner you accept that the better.

Actually that’s false. There’s a bunch of new earrings, hairstyles, and beards to go with the new tattoo options. I suggest you look them up. They look fantastic. Celtic braids, feathers in the hair, everything.

And you want a Gryphon. We’ve got plenty.

Not in quest text, race intro voiceovers, etc.

False. They are.

That doesn’t exist anymore, now does it?

It does, as a matter of fact.

I quoted the text from it upthread.

So… Darkspear being just troll…

You don’t need to agree, but I can promise you you’re not gonna change my mind.

Darkspear had no buildup. So they don’t need that.

So… You’re pretending to troll?

I have explained my reasons.

You really are here to troll.

No it’s just a Bronzebeard Dwarf.

You also have access to DID dwarves.

Oh I know. Doesn’t change a thing.

I don’t have a Wildhammer AR or their associated mount.

You have to be a troll.

I don’t see Exile’s Reach. Only Classic and Cata.

Here it is.

Yes. It’s also why we now have Sandfury added in Shadowlands.

Zandalari had a ton of build up. They even had an in-game event based around the event that led to it. Not to mention their pre-established Loa.

Oh so now because I still disagree with you, I’m a troll? That’s rich.

Yeah and that’s great, but you have access to Wildhammer Dwarves under the banner of “Dwarf.” Because, quite frankly, Bronzebeard and Wildhammer live in the exact same city.

So you’re seriously here trying to to tell me every single time that I’m “never going to change your mind” because I disagree with you. Now I’m a troll because… I disagree with you.

Yeah that still proves my point. Wildhammer live in Ironforge now. They didn’t say Bronzebeard. They said Ironforge.

They don’t, actually.

They live in Aerie Peak. Or a variety of villages in the Twilight Highlands.

Falstad is on the Council of Three Hammers, which meets in Ironforge. He does not live there. Currently he sleeps on a boat in Boralus.

Wildhammers specifically do NOT like living underground, so the vast majority of them don’t.

I assume you mean Darkspear.

I’m saying they should do that for the Druid.

Or not doesn’t really matter.

No its because you make no sense.

You keep saying they would be the same and that’s not true… So troll.

Wildhammer live in the Aerie Peak in the Hinterlands and in a few settlements in the Twilight Highlands…

They share IF with the Bronzebeard and the Dark Iron to stop a war between the three clans.

No you’re a troll because you’re choosing to say things that aren’t true.

Just, want to ask. What mount would you want for AR Wildhammer? Because the thing is, as far as I know none of the AR mounts are capable of flight where as a Gryphon would be.

It would be a Gryphon most like.

Up in the Original Post I have some racial ideas, one of em allows Wildhammer to fly at level 10 (SLs).

Which would be neat. I figure it’d be their version of the mole machine.

That’s my running thought at the moment.

You do understand that Ironforge is a home to all Dwarf clans right? Dark Iron, Bronzebeard, and Wildhammer. You represent the Dwarves as a united force according to that cinematic.

Except it does matter. You can’t just add in a Druid race out of nowhere with no explanation. Why do you think BFA went through the lengths to tell the story of the Drust?

I make far more sense than you. I’ve repeatedly refuted everything you’ve said and your argument has repeatedly devolved into “you’re not going to change my mind.”

Yeah so you don’t know much about your own city do you? It’s home to all Dwarves.

Except everything I’ve said is true, but you’re in denial because you can’t handle the prospect of someone saying “No.”

Fact of the matter is that Wildhammer have been added as a playable clan under the Dwarf banner. As a united force the Council of Three Hammers rules over Ironforge, the home of all Dwarf clans.

Due to their lack of biological difference, it makes sense that the Wildhammer would have the same racials as Bronzebeard. They were stoneborn once after all.

It isn’t. Dark Irons live in Shadowforge City, inside Blackrock Depths. Make one, do the intro scenario, they categorically do NOT live in Ironforge. Same for Wildhammer, they live in Aerie Peak in the Hinterlands, or a bunch of small villages in Twilight Highlands. They do NOT like living underground, so they…don’t. Falstad even mentions this directly during Cataclysm questing, that he is uncomfortable being under all that stone.

You know how all the faction leaders show up in Stormwind (or Orgrimmar) whenever important lore things happen? Note that they don’t LIVE in those cities. That’s where the council meetings happen.

The Dwarven clans have an additional council in addition to the one for Alliance faction leaders, the Council of Three Hammers.

The Council of Three Hammers meets in Ironforge.

Just because I go to meetings in the conference room in the building where I work does not mean I live in that building.

Not immensely.

Wildhammer make sense for Druid it wouldn’t be much of a stretch. They worship spirits, nature, and ancestors. They’ve been around the Night Elves plenty. Some could easily learn from the Cenarion Circle.

Even a simple blurb from an npc saying why and how would do fine.

I’d love to find out about a Gryphon Wild God though.

Just trying to save you the time.

You think they’re not different enough I disagree with you.

They have a different culture and don’t live where you think they do.

You… You just… What?

Their capital is the Aerie Peak. They also have many settlements in the twilight highlands.

They hate living underground because of what happened back during the War of Three Hammers in Grim Batol.

They share IF to keep war from happening between the three clans.

Ah ok I see. You think that because the three clans originated from IF that they all live there.

Hasn’t been true for a very long time until very recently. Now it’s more of a symbol for the three clans.

Also I see their addition as customization unsatisfactory. DID was added and Bronzebeard are here. Wildhammer deserve their place.

They’ve lived on the surface for a few hundred years. It’s easy to imagine them having a lighter form of Stoneform (outlined in OP) and they would definitely have their Storm Hammers and something to do with their Gryphons.

I get you don’t agree but I think you’re way off.

Except they do. All 3 clans hang out in Ironforge. They may have their own other cities but Ironforge is the capital of everything Dwarven.

Yeah… but here’s the thing. Ironforge is the Dwarf Capital.