Is it? You don’t think we have enough gryphon mounts already?
It is and no I don’t. Besides an actual Wildhammer one would be cool.
Edit: that’s my opinion of course. Lol
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Except it doesn’t, because it explicitly mentions you represent the Dwarves of Ironforge.
If it said “representing the Dwarves” or “representing the Dwarven Clans”, that would be one thing.
Horde Exile’s Reach is NYI, but AFAIK according to datamined text strings it explicitly refrences Darkspear Trolls as well.
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No man. Ironforge is the capital for all Dwarves. Hence why it’s ruled and governed by the three clans.
Wildhammer have the exact same voices. I’m getting tired of repeating myself. You want an entirely separate race for the most petty things that have never been a requirement.
Stormhammers aren’t an ability dude. They’re just part of the Shaman fantasy that Wildhammers encompass.
Ironforge is the capital of all Dwarves. Why do you think it’s run and governed by three different clans?
It really isn’t.
Keep living in denial then bud.
Literally nothing points to Wildhammer having some sort of lessened stoneform. You’re making something up and saying they should have this because they could. No evidence? No dice.
No Blizz agrees with what I just said. Hence why they’re an Allied Race.
Representing the Dwarves of Ironforge means you represent all Dwarves. Ironforge is ruled and governed by Dark Iron, Wildhammer, and Bronzebeard alike.
And that’s basically what they’re saying.
You think. You don’t know.
I’m going to ask you what I asked the other guy:
Why do you hate fun? Why do you feel it necessary to come into this thread and repeatedly crap on what other people want?
Let people enjoy things.
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I don’t hate fun. I’m just telling people they got what they want so they can be happy. Instead they want to continually deny that they received what they want and deny themselves that enjoyment for the sake of complaining more.
Also, by saying that you kinda prove to me that you have no further argument after I just blew a hole in it.
You have ignored every argument I (and anyone else) put forth already, and I’m not interested in arguing with a brick wall. There are better uses of my time than explaining to you that “Dwarves of Ironforge” specifically refers to Ironforge Dwarves, i.e the Bronzebeard Clan, for the 15th time.
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No. I’ve gone point by point and addressed it repeatedly. I’ve pointed out the flaws and explained the reasoning behind how these are Wildhammer Dwarves.
This is the irony here. I’ve told you repeatedly why Wildhammer Dwarves have been implemented in Shadowlands. The only thing you’ve tried to use as an argument is the notion of one single line of text in the intro. One text that I’ve already explained the reasoning behind, to you.
Except they don’t. Ironforge is ruled by three clans. And by saying you represent Ironforge means you represent the Council of Three Hammers and thus all Dwarf Clans.
Round and round it goes.
I’m saying by not haveing those you lose a lot.
If you’re tired of repeating yourself maybe you should just not comment? You haven’t done anything to convince me I’m wrong. I’m clearly not convincing you that you’re wrong.
Agree to disagree I guess.
The legendary storm hammers of the Wildhammer clan are the most notable thing about them after their legendary relationship with their gryphons. Hell they’re the reason the Alliance has gryphons.
It has importance because it was their origin point. All three clans have symbolic reasons for wanting control. It is not the Capital of all dwarves. Its their origin. Its the capital of the Bronzebeard. The Capital of the DID is Shadowforge City, and the Capital of the Wildhammer is Aerie Peak.
Round and round and round.
Guess not to you. Important though.
Good luck with your Kyrian.
Well yeah. I’m saying since its unlikely that their active racial would be Stoneform cause it’d be the Storm Hammers Blizzard would likely give them a lessened version of it to show their ancestry.
Where did you miss that part? Their active racial would most likely be their Storm Hammer ability and then they’d have a Gryphon based racial and then a Stoneform based one.
Oh boy. So you think the Mag’har and HMT are not just Orcs without the Fel taint and Tauren with Antlers?
Blizz says theses races are their parent races. They’re just modified either over time or by some power.
Void Elves are Blood Elves are High Elves for instance.
It means you represent the Bronzebeard.
No they’re saying you represent the Dwarves of Ironforge. So Bronzebeard.
Cool your opinion is noted. You don’t need to harp on it. We disagree with you. So no we did not get what we wanted.
Its what he does in the couple other threads I see him in too.
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And Wildhammers can represent Aerie Peak and Ironforge both. Are you even reading what you’re typing? Every single argument you have against Wildhammers would also apply against Dark Irons. Yet Dark Irons are an Allied Race. That means there’s nothing that you’ve said that goes against Wildhammers becoming an Allied Race.
Try again when you have some sort of argument beyond “nuh-uh”.
Dark Irons and Wildhammers have been separated just as long.
Did I get Wildhammers as an Allied Race? No? Then I didn’t get what I wanted.
What about the Wildhammers and their hundreds of years communing with nature?
You have done nothing but spread negativity in this thread. Your arguments are weak and pointless. The single reason you’re here is to stir up trouble and I’m not going to take the bait anymore.
And it’s just as true as always. I’ve said repeatedly now that Ironforge belongs to all dwarves. Yes. They have Aerie Peak and Shadowforge. That belongs to them. But Ironforge belongs to all.
No because I want you to understand you are getting what you want.
And those “legendary storm hammers” are represented through the introduction of Dwarf Shamans. That’s the entire reason we got them in Cataclysm.
Before the Storm, the introductory book into BFA, states that Ironforge is the capital of all dwarves.
Here’s the Wowpedia link:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ironforge
The literal first line of text in regards to Ironforge.
But that’s not a requirement. Nor has it ever been one.
You answered your own question. They got modified by some outside force and are Allied Races because of that. Wildhammer aren’t. They just have tattoos and a love for gryphons.
I’ll just link it again:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ironforge
But you did, yet deny it.
While I do agree with you, they sadly fall into high elf territoy, and just arn’t different enout to justify a seperate race. (like high elves and void elves.)
I updated my OP adding classes to it. Think I should change any of that?
Not commenting on the High Elf debacle here cause I do not want to be involved with all that, but I disagree about them not being different enough…
I mean I must since I made the thread. 
I appreciate your opinion though.
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And that’s it! They do.
Not really. Biological differences between Dark Iron and Bronzebeard made them just that bit different to where they are a separate Allied Race.
That’s never been my argument though.
But you got Wildhammers. Maybe not as an Allied Race. But you got them 
I’m happy. I can’t wait to play one.
Except I haven’t. I’ve just proved you wrong and you don’t like that. Simple.
It’s not. I came into this thread from the get-go with a positive attitude. You guys did it to yourselves by making this into an argument.
Fair play and really hope it works out for you, but I think best case scenario are a second heritage armour, and few glyphs to change racial effects
Honestly I could live with that compromise.
I do hope there is a mount eventually though to go along with it.
I honestly hope blizzard sees the Wildhammer threads that have popped up here and there and does something for such an important race for the Alliance.
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wildhammers were not a different dwarf race, nonsense to waste an ar on then, same with other troll colors
dwarf druid was a thing from the rpg, it wasn’t canon
I disagree. Thank you for your opinion Syegfryed. Hope you get your Ogres by the by.
Oh I know. I would like it though. Honestly I’m hoping for this someday not really expecting it.
but again, how can you disagree with the game lore? their only difference we saw in wow lifetime is they having different tattoos and hairs, this isn’t another race to be an allied race material.
the thing is, druid is not a class that combine with the dwarf race and thematic at all, even the wildhammes, shamans yes, but druids don’t make sense
I disagree because they’re not the same as the Bronzebeard. They have a different culture, a different set of likely racials, and they’re just not at all Bronzebeard Dwarves. Their Tattoos being shared is one thing but their culture is vastly different.
On top of that their lore would not see them as the same. They have a different history just like the Bronzebeard and DID have a different history.
HMT and tauren have the same differences really between them as IF dwarves and Wildhammer ones.
I respect you feel differently but I’m going to continue to ask.
They could with but a jump and a skip as it were.
Again I don’t immensely think this one will happen. But it’d be nice.