You know they could make a new voice over line introducing Dwarves in Exile’s reach. They did it for Cataclysm they can do it here.
Those 4 elves consist of 2 different models which makes it acceptable.
Yeah, they did, I’m in alpha. I’ve made a bunch of Dwarves already (sadly the tatoos are NYI).
The first line is “You are a noble soldier of the Alliance. Blah Blah scrolls too fast to read it all and there is no voiceover yet.”
The second line begins “Representing the stout and enduring Dwarves of Ironforge…”
Clearly Dwarves as they are playable right now, on both Live and Alpha, are explicitly Ironforge Dwarves, of the Bronzebeard clan.
Probably will. I’ll still want the other things I outlined in my last post.
May I ask you why you Don’t want them to have an AR?
I’m not sure if I should engage you with a name like yours… but I do like the look.
Oi thats unfortunate. Still early they might update it.
Well… I mean, it’s still Alpha so it can still change?
… sigh It’s going to be one of those nights.
I’ll try to explain my reasoning so please bear with me. It’s just, the differences between a Ironforge Dwarf and a Wildhammer Dwarf are very incredibly negligible. There is almost no difference at all save for culture. As such sharing racials between the two is not that out of the ordinary, if you bring in Dark Irons you have to remember the entire race was pretty much marked by Ragnaros and lived in the heart of a Volcano, so it makes sense they’d have different racials from their other two cousins.
Another thing is attempting to balance a new set of racials vs. everyone else, I’m not a programmer but I imagine it’s a nightmare and a constant hassle for developers to deal with.
Third there are only so many slots in the game, and this is an old game with a lot of files, mind you still not a programmer so right here I’m talking out my rear.
Look, before Shadowlands announcement I’d have be right there with you pushing for Wildhammer AR, along with several others but in the end this is actually the right call from Blizzard by making these into customization options, As much as I love the Mag’har and their Heritage set I have to admit it’d have been better if it was a character customization regular Orcs got. Same with Highmountain Tauren and Lightforged Draenei.
I’d rather they didn’t.
Keep hope alive!
Why do you hate fun?
Let people want things.
Nobody is mandating that you come into this thread and crap on stuff that other people like.
You just proved my point by quoting that. They’re united inside of Ironforge, their new home. So there we go. The customization options makes perfect sense.
And as for the last thing you said.
I don’t think tattoos and behead makes you a different race. We’re getting Wildhammer Dwarves regardless. I don’t know why any of you are frustrated.
Cause we’re not getting Wildhammer. We’re getting Bronzebeard dwarves with tattoos. We’ve been talking about what we are looking for. You just aint listening.
If they are all united inside of Ironforge, their new home (psst…they aren’t, there are massive contingents of Wildhammer living well removed from Ironforge, including post Cataclysm - see Twilight Highlands questing, as well as Aerie Peak, the Wildhammer capitol city), then why did the Dark Iron Dwarves need to be added as an AR?
Why not just give Bronzebeard Dwarves customizations for red eyes and gray skin? The DID in previous expansions never had any physical differences other than skin tone until they were introduced in BfA.
I don’t hate fun I don’t really, I simply think that this is the right call from Blizzard is all. I’ve detailed my reasonings up top.
I can respect that. I don’t agree with parts of it. But I see where you’re coming from. Thank you for sharing that.
I personally want to see the Wildhammer have their AR. And I don’t need it now. I can live for the time being with the customizations. But I’m going to ask. Maybe in the future Blizzard will think about it at least.
Thats all I can ask for.
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That’s fair, I wish you the best of luck then.
I’d give you a like on both posts but I’m outa them tonight. >.<
It’s alright. Not fussed about likes in the slightest.
DID never had physical differences to IFD (or WHD for that matter) prior to BfA other than red eyes and darker gray skin. They added the physical differences when they decided to add the AR.
Development being difficult is not a reason not to ask for things. If you honestly think it’s too hard for Blizzard, I have a bridge to sell you.
Not a thing. They built the engine entirely from scratch, they have updated it dozens of times. There is a lot of legacy code that causes problems, like the OG backpack. Clearly race slots aren’t one of them, given they conjured up ARs out of the clear blue sky.
Nah, the Mag’har are a completely different race of Orcs from a completely different universe. They can totally be a separate race. LFD are again, totally separate group of Draenei that have been travelling the cosmos for millenia in some weird time bubble. HMT are a lot closer, but I’m still cool with them being a different race.
Give me all the races ever all the time.
Except… You are. Wildhammer are no different than Bronzebeard. They just have a different style.
Because Dark Iron were different enough the point where they couldn’t really be just a customization option. They also have some genetic differences with the glowing eyes, flaming beards, and ability to literally go up in flames.
Except they had enough differences. That’s the point. And also, do understand that this was during a time at which they hadn’t officially decided where they were going to go with Allied Races. To avoid bloat, this is what they did. They listened to community feedback regarding the disdain for having to pay for a race change for something that could’ve been a customization option (Lightfoged/HMT), and gave it to the race baseline.
That’s what they did here. You are getting true Wildhammer.
You guys seemingly want them to be a separate race for no reason other than… racials? Which, based on logic and reasoning, Wildhammer wouldn’t have different racials as opposed to Ironforge Dwarves. They both use stoneform.
But apparently tattoos constitutes Allied Race material? Okay. Whatever.
They would have different racials. Also I want the racials the likely extra Druid class, the heritage armor, mount, voice lines, and the lore associated with them.
The only AR bit they would have any trouble fulfilling is the looks which Blizzard is giving to Bronzebeard Dwarves. And thats the only reason it would be hard to fulfill.
Did you miss the High Elf customizations that both BE and VE are getting?
No I saw them. That doesn’t help our case much though…