Why you should not care if Rag is downed in week 1

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I 1v40d everyone in an AV and then the head cheerleader heard about it and asked me out but I said nope busy farming and she’s sitting next to me.

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Oh the farming of resist gear for that fight, epic times but very much dreading it .

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Hence why i said the word has a bad connotation now. The fact remains that the elitist mentality will spread beyond the no-lifers. We saw it in TBC and wotlk. Hell cataclysm was purposefully designed to appeal to them and its that kind of mentality that made gearscore and raiderio. Thats why toxic was the appropriate word despite its connotation, the people who make a competition out of gaming are poisonous to the community.

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You’re bad at PvE and PvP. On classic and the live game. Link your rogue’s armory if you’re real

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The fact that there’s a debate right now if player’s can kill rag on the first week of classic launch there’s absolutely no chance that you killed rag the first week in 2005. That said I agree with the other point you were making that it doesn’t matter if hardcore players kill rag quickly, just play the game how you want to.

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This is what blows my mind. Stuff like this (4 week clear post launch) happened in vanilla WoW and people still don’t think that maybe a 3 or even a 2 week clear will happen. lmao

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I think on servers with big name streamers and some top guilds we’ll see two week kills but first week is just such a stretch. Mathematically it’s possible but that’s some insane level of playtime required.

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The argument at hand is 1 week from launch though not several.

And just like the op, who you quoted also provided no proof. If I choose to disbelieve OP for that reason than I must reject every other claim, no matter how much more likey, with no proof as well.

I could believe and end of Week 2 beginning of week 3 kill IF they could provide me with evidence that they downed Rag 1 month out. Until then to quote myself

Edit to add: That I honestly think people are underestimating how much of an impact starting on launch is actually going to make.

Even all of the arguments we are using do not take into consideration having hundreds of other people around you competing for the exact same things as you. I have no doubt in my mind Joanna can and will beat his old record. Do I think he’ll have done it in the 1st week of launch? Absolutely not. I don’t even think he will try based on the fact that starting on the launch alone is going to add multiple /played hours to his final time.

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Link your armory what is this retail? Already starting with the link your armory next it will be link your achievements. I really hope they have neither in classic…

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The real reasons I don’t care if WOW Classic Rag is downed in week 1:

  1. Vanilla Rag was downed 154 days after release, by players who had to figure it all out. Downing him in a week on a fresh server in 2005 (if it was proven) would be nothing more exciting than being the guy who climbed Mt. Everest using all the equipment left behind by the ones who did the truly hard work.

  2. WoW Classic Rag isn’t even going to be as hard as Vanilla Rag. You’ll have 16 debuff slots. You’ll have 1.12 talents.

  3. I won’t even be starting my first character for a month. Why would I care what someone I don’t know did (or didn’t do) in week 1 of WOW Classic?

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Did you not read any context? His armory could indicate whether he actually did a shred of the things he said he did.

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If players want to rush to cap and try to kill bosses in a week or so I could care less. Don’t really get why people are so polarized on this issue. I started a couple months shy of BC launch so I plan to take my sweet time enjoying the game again.

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Let’s pretend you are Elune. You telling me someone as amazing at WoW as you can’t figure out how Rag being downed faster would affect others?

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I really really find these threads entertaining and I don’t know why. I will not be rushing 60, and my overall goal for the lifespan of classic is to be present for a Rag kill, as I never raided in vanilla and will be mostly casual this time around.

But the discussion is super interesting. Just from a logistics problem it seems super unlikely. It all hinges around the unknowns of leveling time and apparently how hard MC actually is. The acknowledged speed record was Joanna’s time, on a hunter, and even Joanna has said that time (116 hours) is beatable by a few hours now. But that’s not on a game launch server, with who knows what sort of crowds and instability. But ignore that, shave a few hours off, playing 18 hours a day still would take 6 days to get there. At better than world record pace.

It also doesn’t account for needing multiple people to be able to break world record paces on classes like warriors and priests, who are slow. It seems like it might technically be possible, even probable, to get a few people to 60 in 1 week of real time. But thats not the same as a full raid party attuned with consumables, and rep to summon in 1 week. There’s a gap between those two that seems to be ignored.

Also have no idea how hard MC actually is. It seems unlikely that ~30 guys all lvl ~58 could do it in leveling greens and maybe lucky world drops, but I’d love some input on the likelihood of that. There’s so many arguments about how important fire resist actually is and who needs it and how much.

The whole thing is just an amusing planning puzzle with sizzling hot takes all around. I hope no one dies of malnutrition trying.

This OP is clearly lying, but that’s okay. Have your fun. Your epeen is massive.

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A fresh server a year after launch is not the same as the launch of classic 15 years later.

How do you plan on competing and winning XP resources when there’s going to be hundreds if not thousands of people in the same zone as you? Assuming sharding is used, and only for levels 1-10, what do you do when you get to the barrens, westfall, etc?

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I can read perfectly fine. Still doesn’t change the fact you’re asking for an armory link in the classic discussion forum when many of us in the classic community are highly against it :joy:.

Obviously he is trolling he said he took on 6 other rogues at once and downed ragnaros in the first week 14 years ago when “blizzlike” private servers cant even accomplish that at least from the information I can find.

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I wouldn’t be able to link the armory bcuz the account is not mine anymore. I’m on my 4th or 5th account now. I stopped going to markeedragon after wotlk. Some ppl are just clueless.

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As I said obviously trolling

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But at least it’s just blatantly obvious trolling, let the greatest rogue in the history of rogues have his fun. He’s just so much better than us plebs its amazing I can even read his words without spontaneously combusting from the pure awesomeness

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Obviously not trolling. Things you believe to be impossible happen everyday. The people who accomplished those things get called trolls by people like you and we really don’t care.

Yes, I did do all of those things I said. In TBC, I also beat gladiators in duels while only using two level 6 white weapons from a vendor as a rogue. By using this info you can see the caliber of the players that is required to accomplish such feats. If you are below such caliber and see these feats as impossible then you have established where you belong on the spectrum.

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