actually weaker players banding together will accentuate the opposite effect.10/28/2018 09:38 PMPosted by BoardwalkerI don't mind premades. It helps the weaker players band together if they find it difficult to win when they solo queue.
10/28/2018 06:43 PMPosted by TalunzThe only reason they don't enable solo que only is that the premaders need solo ques to fill the gaps. Solo ques do not need premades at all and would notice negative effects of their ques being split from the premades but the premades would certainly notice a huge increase in que times.
It's a very parasitic relationship with no advantage to the solo que guys
Regarding the premades noticing a huge increase in queue times; my heart just bleeds for them. Price you pay for looking for an unfair advantage....errrr...I mean "wanting to play with my friends".
Regarding filler for the premade queues; then let solo queuers have the option for soloing into the premade queue and get double honor. Players will take that bait and the problem is solved.
I'm not even a game designer and I just fixed the 12-year issue in about ten seconds. Maybe they should hire me.
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10/28/2018 10:14 PMPosted by Cowpow10/28/2018 06:43 PMPosted by TalunzThe only reason they don't enable solo que only is that the premaders need solo ques to fill the gaps. Solo ques do not need premades at all and would notice negative effects of their ques being split from the premades but the premades would certainly notice a huge increase in que times.
It's a very parasitic relationship with no advantage to the solo que guys
Regarding the premades noticing a huge increase in queue times; my heart just bleeds for them. Price you pay for looking for an unfair advantage....errrr...I mean "wanting to play with my friends".
Regarding filler for the premade queues; then let solo queuers have the option for soloing into the premade queue and get double honor. Players will take that bait and the problem is solved.
I'm not even a game designer and I just fixed the 12-year issue in about ten seconds. Maybe they should hire me.
Lol how is it unfair when you have the same tools available to make your own ?
Heaven forbid I enjoy BG's as I level and expect to play against other likeminded individuals for a fair match, instead I get paired against groups of highly geared players where I know the loss is inevitable and I have to get graveyard camped for 15 minutes or get the queue debuff.
Good game design!
At least previously premades only fought other premades
Good game design!
At least previously premades only fought other premades
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The truth is this; you can have all of the gear in the world, all of the skill in the world and if you are in a random battleground with fresh boosts, people who are leveling through or people afk in the gy, it's all going to be a wasted time experience that makes you feel pretty bad as you watch your team get farmed around you and ignore objectives because they either do not care, or can't get there.
So, you group with other people who are tired of playing with the same and you share the same goal, and that is to win.
So, you group with other people who are tired of playing with the same and you share the same goal, and that is to win.
clears throat
intense whiplash of wind from the side
tumble weeds bouncing in the distance
narrowing vision to get a better look at the thread date
shocked face
Nothing changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGtZSUx8Ngw
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“The only thing that stays the same is: everything changes. Everything changes.” – Tracy Lawrence
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The premade groups I see in random BGs are casual groups of friends.
It’s not really a problem in 10-15 random BGs.
It breaks almost every epic BG you queue into now.
Somebody made a whole powerpoint presentation about it recently, so that’s probably why people are actively raging.
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Yup epic bgs are broken at this point. Your win or loss is determined by whether you’re in the side of the queue dodgers lol. It’s sad. I stopped doing pvping. What’s the point if every bg you go into, it’s 8 vs 40???
How those addons are still allowed to manipulate games is beyond me.
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Premades are fun. Que synch cheating trash players need to be banned!
Basically the lowest form of PvP player. In fact I wouldnt even call them PvP
Players. They use addons, countdowns, Que synch, and basically tilt the field so that they win no matter what. It’s not about competition but about roflstomping….i guess that’s fun for them? But real competitive
Fair play…that’s not them. Don’t lump them in with real PvP players
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Breaking the most “casual pvp experience this game has to offer” into two brackets. Dad vs Dad 2, ultra casual edition with 30 honor levels is stupid. 1 hour 15 min queues all day only for the game to end in 2 minutes or less if its not WG or AV. It’s going to take me to the end of midnight expac to get to honor level 30 lol. I’ve left queue 50+ times after 30mins thinking maybe a bug but nah fam this be loco.
Thank God for alliance dominated warmode crate farming to get fast gear, yikes.
https://imgur.com/a/zwEmuSF
I dont have an issue with the 5 peeps from same guild premade stuff blizz allows.
My issue is the cheating by using an add on to manipulate the LFG tool.
Random BGs are sposed to be RANDOM not 35 people cheating with an add on
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Players have been using the method since vanilla wow.
You don’t need addons to do it.
Getting multiple groups into the game this way isn’t considered cheating, but degrading player experience by manipulating game mechanics would be against the terms of service.
There is no way to really stop it other than retooling the queue system with this in mind. The current queue system is a predictable FIFO (first in first out), so it is easy to manipulate. It would need to select players in a way that is unpredictable to avoid this.
Honestly, if it was up to me…
I would be using specs as a factor for how you are selected from the queue and placed into a game.
My reasoning would be specifically aimed at preventing multiple players running the same spec from being placed into the same game, but it would probably be enough of a wrench in the gears to make sync queueing unreliable.
That would also mean that something like retpocalypse from DF would result in anyone running ret having a massive queue time.
You may be less inclined to jump on the FOTM bandwagon if it means you’re queue is going to be x10 while also adding a little incentive to play a less popular specs.
My issue is just the queue dodging. Premades etc or queue syncing doesn’t annoy me. I’m only referring to the queue dodging.
How to know someone has no idea what they are talking about XD
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You can tell how all the little Que synch cheaters are…the ones who try to constantly minimalist their behaviours…”oh no! Addons have been used since vanilla! It’s just part of the game now!”
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Holy 6 year later necro post!
RISE AND BE RELEVANT AGAIN
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Random refers to the map selection, not cheaters or addons lol
The addon is mainly used to dodge, not sync queues. You can sync queues by typing in chat or saying something in coms
Making BGs cross faction would resolve this, wish they’d do it already so we could move on to the next topic to complain about endlessly and resurrect 6 year old threads. This topic is boring
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Still amazes me how much people try to lie about the addon…
No one is forcing you to respond. You could just, not.
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