For random bgs. You can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together. If you can’t beat em, join em. This is a game where people are supposed to coordinate together.
Why all this complaining all of a sudden? Is it because this weeks CTA was 4 bg wins?
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10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by Mega
Why all this complaining all of a sudden? Is it because this weeks CTA was 4 bg wins?
Premade complaints come in waves.
This isn’t a new thing.
I don't hate them.
I just think they're disingenuous (euphemism) for claiming they have no advantage over solo queuers.
I just think they're disingenuous (euphemism) for claiming they have no advantage over solo queuers.
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Also, back in the day, people used to coordinate together without needing to form premades. Crazy times.
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At that point, why not do rated bgs?10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaYou can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together.
You don't have to be in a premade group to coordinate with others. You can coordinate with your pug teammates too.10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaThis is a game where people are supposed to coordinate together.
Random bgs are supposed to be casual fun. It's kinda lame when players stack their teams and the bgs end up being very imbalanced.
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Back in the day, premades were larger than 5 mans. Back in the day, you could pick a number bg that your friends were in.10/27/2018 05:47 PMPosted by UtterlyAlso, back in the day, people used to coordinate together without needing to form premades. Crazy times.
Is this thread for real? Go read any of the dozens of anti-premade threads, and you'll find the reasons in a second.
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10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaFor random bgs. You can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together. If you can’t beat em, join em. This is a game where people are supposed to coordinate together.
Why all this complaining all of a sudden? Is it because this weeks CTA was 4 bg wins?
It's been a lot worse since BFA launched. Also, with how slowly the honor bar moves, you want to, at the very least, have a chance of winning and getting some good honor after spending 10...12...15+ minutes in a queue.
There have been nights where I spent hours sitting in long queues, getting blow up by premade after premade, and getting virtually zero honor for the night. It's not fair. I'm paying for my subscription too. Just give us a solo only queue or force all grouped queues into the 40-man BGs.
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10/27/2018 05:55 PMPosted by GriefsIs this thread for real? Go read any of the dozens of anti-premade threads, and you'll find the reasons in a second.
People need an escape mechanism for their own crappy skill so they have latched onto the premade boogeyman.
10/27/2018 05:49 PMPosted by JugajrBack in the day, premades were larger than 5 mans. Back in the day, you could pick a number bg that your friends were in.10/27/2018 05:47 PMPosted by UtterlyAlso, back in the day, people used to coordinate together without needing to form premades. Crazy times.
Seriously, does everyone have amnesia? You could form up a full 10 / 15 / 40 man group.
You could farm the gy until the sun came up thanks to no time limit on WSG match.
I could go on, but you get the picture. People who won't make the effort to find other people to PVP with have it easier than they ever did.
10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaFor random bgs. You can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together.
Because if they wanted to do that they'd just play rated for better rewards. Though, to be fair, this is a good week to start doing rated. If you're going to deal with premades anyway, you mine as well join a yolo.
And to answer the original question. There's so much hate because for some reason premades care a great deal about 50% bonus honor and come out of the woodwork for it. Which means more people are running into them than usual, which means more people are complaining about them than usual.
10/27/2018 06:34 PMPosted by MuffindivingSeriously, does everyone have amnesia? You could form up a full 10 / 15 / 40 man group.
You could farm the gy until the sun came up thanks to no time limit on WSG match.
I could go on, but you get the picture. People who won't make the effort to find other people to PVP with have it easier than they ever did.
That's all very true.
But if premades, even at 5 people, didn't offer a very large advantage and increase the win rate, people wouldn't do it that much. But pretending that premades offer no advantage, like you have in all of these threads, just makes you look stupid.
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10/27/2018 06:53 PMPosted by Ridicruel10/27/2018 06:34 PMPosted by MuffindivingSeriously, does everyone have amnesia? You could form up a full 10 / 15 / 40 man group.
You could farm the gy until the sun came up thanks to no time limit on WSG match.
I could go on, but you get the picture. People who won't make the effort to find other people to PVP with have it easier than they ever did.
That's all very true.
But if premades, even at 5 people, didn't offer a very large advantage and increase the win rate, people wouldn't do it that much. But pretending that premades offer no advantage, like you have in all of these threads, just makes you look stupid.
Premades face other premades, so the advantage is a fun game I suppose!
10/27/2018 07:04 PMPosted by Jugajr10/27/2018 06:53 PMPosted by Ridicruel...
That's all very true.
But if premades, even at 5 people, didn't offer a very large advantage and increase the win rate, people wouldn't do it that much. But pretending that premades offer no advantage, like you have in all of these threads, just makes you look stupid.
Premades face other premades, so the advantage is a fun game I suppose!
Has this been unequivocally stated anywhere?
I keep seeing this said and sure it sounds nice but I haven’t grouped but 2 or 3 times out of the 110 ish games I’ve played so far.
Is there a patch note for this? How do you know that your group is facing a group.
If I’m in a group it’s unlikely that anyone would be able to tell it just from a quick glance. Most everyone in my friends list is strewn about the Azeroth multiverse.
10/27/2018 07:11 PMPosted by TsatagaHow do you know that your group is facing a group.
Lot of guild groups running, and you can still tell if someone is non prestige they are in a group. Not to mention when you have a full 5 man you get lower queue times meaning there is a horde group already so you only need 5 more on each side to fill
10/27/2018 06:53 PMPosted by RidicruelBut if premades, even at 5 people, didn't offer a very large advantage and increase the win rate, people wouldn't do it that much. But pretending that premades offer no advantage, like you have in all of these threads, just makes you look stupid.
Where did I say it doesn't give you an advantage?
It certainly gives you an edge over a random group of people who refuse to work together towards winning a BG.
10/27/2018 07:13 PMPosted by Jugajr10/27/2018 07:11 PMPosted by TsatagaHow do you know that your group is facing a group.
Lot of guild groups running, and you can still tell if someone is non prestige they are in a group. Not to mention when you have a full 5 man you get lower queue times meaning there is a horde group already so you only need 5 more on each side to fill
Yeah, I missed an expansion and a half so what you just said sounded like a teacher from a Charlie Brown tv special.
Could you explain what you mean by non-prestige please?
Also is there something official that says they are matching groups now or is this a personal experience observation?
10/27/2018 05:48 PMPosted by ForumsAt that point, why not do rated bgs?10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaYou can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together.You don't have to be in a premade group to coordinate with others. You can coordinate with your pug teammates too.10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by MegaThis is a game where people are supposed to coordinate together.
Random bgs are supposed to be casual fun. It's kinda lame when players stack their teams and the bgs end up being very imbalanced.
You know for someone who cares about "fair" games so much, why don't you do rated? As bad as rated bg match making is I can assure you that it far superior to the wild west that is random bgs. If you want close games do rbgs.
People will play with who they want to play with. I personally play with friends who I also rbg with. Are they better than your average bg player? Hell yea. Do you have a problem with that? If you do, suck it up buttercup. Why don't you get better at the game instead of telling me who to play with and how to spend my free time.
I honestly dont get it. You guys cry about premades, blizzard makes the option to LFG/make groups for random bgs. You cry more, blizzard enables a feature to join friends/groups that are already in queue for bgs. More crying, blizzard enables voice. Do you see a pattern here? Well if you dont ill spell it out for you:
PREMADES are here to stay, this is a MMO afterall.
So not only are you going to suck that up, your going to enjoy it too. Got it?
10/27/2018 07:17 PMPosted by Tsatagaor is this a personal experience observation?
My own observation, same as premade haters who always face premades while solo queuing and never have one on their team. As for non-prestige it was a Legion thing if you didn't hit prestige 1, you were in your own bracket. That means any non prestige players that were in p1 or above BGs were grouped with someone. I believe now it's honor level 30 and below is in their own but no one really confirmed that one
10/27/2018 07:04 PMPosted by Jugajr10/27/2018 06:53 PMPosted by Ridicruel...
That's all very true.
But if premades, even at 5 people, didn't offer a very large advantage and increase the win rate, people wouldn't do it that much. But pretending that premades offer no advantage, like you have in all of these threads, just makes you look stupid.
Premades face other premades, so the advantage is a fun game I suppose!
you always say this now prove it. spm tried to put a wargames premade vs premade every last sunday of the month yet they could never get enough for two teams where were all those premaders that wanted to face other premades?
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give me a good reason there shouldnt be a solo only queue?
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