Why the premade hate?

10/27/2018 07:26 PMPosted by Ruffiaann
you always say this now prove it.


I did last expansion, people ignored it ofc. Lets see all these premades you go against with a full solo queue group.
10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by Mega
You can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together. If you can’t beat em, join em.


think of it like an arms race, if you group up, then i need to group up, now we're both grouped up and playing, any new player sees that and also groups up. groups then become the norm, meaning that anytime you want to pvp if you want a fighting chance you need to go find a group. this shouldn't be a requirement, players not should feel forced to group for content they have never had to group up to do before.

10/27/2018 07:04 PMPosted by Jugajr
Premades face other premades, so the advantage is a fun game I suppose!


the system tries its best to face premades with premades, but it doesn't always work.

10/27/2018 07:28 PMPosted by Ruffiaann
give me a good reason there shouldnt be a solo only queue?


its certainly possible that solo-queuers are a small minority that don't warrant the dev resources needed to make a new queue. i don't believe this is true, but its really the only valid reason.
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the system tries its best to face premades with premades, but it doesn't always work.


It has for me at least.
10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
the system tries its best to face premades with premades, but it doesn't always work.


It has for me at least.


i find it really hard to believe you on that, given the amount you pvp, you should have seen all sorts of nonsense in your time, i certainly have and i don't pvp nearly as much as you.
10/27/2018 07:11 PMPosted by Tsataga
Has this been unequivocally stated anywhere?

Premade raids make it obvious that Blizzard doesn't strictly match premade groups.

If they did, premade raids would always face teams filled with 5-man premades. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen. They often go against pugs.
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10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
It has for me at least.


any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?
10/27/2018 08:16 PMPosted by Playpen
10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
It has for me at least.


any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?
Push to 100k
10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
...

It has for me at least.


i find it really hard to believe you on that, given the amount you pvp, you should have seen all sorts of nonsense in your time, i certainly have and i don't pvp nearly as much as you.


I solo queue quite often too don't forget
10/27/2018 08:16 PMPosted by Playpen
10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
It has for me at least.


any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?


Gonna make everyone take a shot
10/27/2018 08:29 PMPosted by Jugajr
10/27/2018 08:16 PMPosted by Playpen
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any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?


Gonna make everyone take a shot
First round is on Jugaa!

Just keep an eye on Pwny, those gnomes can't hold their liquor.
I honestly can't wait until Classic where we'll be able bring a full 40 into AV. It will be good times.
10/27/2018 05:17 PMPosted by Mega
For random bgs. You can make a group for yourself, set the requirements, put a very specific group of people together. If you can’t beat em, join em. This is a game where people are supposed to coordinate together.

Why all this complaining all of a sudden? Is it because this weeks CTA was 4 bg wins?


I agree with some of what you said. People (within limits like 4) should be able to play with friends. However, I feel that if people start creating groups on LFG we are headed down a slippery slope. It will get to a point that every player will need to find a group in order to have fun and be competitive.

Like I first stated I am not against playing with friends, but actually creating a group to do Randoms, sounds a bit too much.
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BTW, would like to point out that most people in PUGS no longer communicate because of "silence ban." Pre-Legion BGs, people would communicate, joke, curse at times, and have fun. Now since you can get silenced for almost anything, most players stay quiet. At least in the Random BGs I have been involved in no one communicates, gives orders, asks for help, or criticize others because of this.
10/28/2018 05:51 PMPosted by Wafflehouse
I honestly can't wait until Classic where we'll be able bring a full 40 into AV. It will be good times.


You know you can still do that now, you simply communicate with your friends when the queue pops?
The only reason they don't enable solo que only is that the premaders need solo ques to fill the gaps. Solo ques do not need premades at all and would notice negative effects of their ques being split from the premades but the premades would certainly notice a huge increase in que times.

It's a very parasitic relationship with no advantage to the solo que guys
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10/28/2018 06:43 PMPosted by Talunz
The only reason they don't enable solo que only is that the premaders need solo ques to fill the gaps. Solo ques do not need premades at all and would notice negative effects of their ques being split from the premades but the premades would certainly notice a huge increase in que times.

It's a very parasitic relationship with no advantage to the solo que guys
2-4 mans would really only be the ones affected, mostly 4 mans. 5 mans would have an easy time to fill since it’s 10/15 mans.
I don't think the lack of communication is due to a "silence ban." If they're not communicating, it's because they don't communicate. I communicate everything, and people respond and I get wins with or without my friends.

/shrug.
10/27/2018 08:16 PMPosted by Playpen
10/27/2018 07:41 PMPosted by Jugajr
It has for me at least.


any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?


...and it's 75,000 posts saying premades don't have an advanatage...
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10/28/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Làfontaine
10/27/2018 08:16 PMPosted by Playpen
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any celebratory plans for post # 75,000?


...and it's 75,000 posts saying premades don't have an advanatage...


The horror
I don't mind premades. It helps the weaker players band together if they find it difficult to win when they solo queue.