I mean, I don’t think he wanted Skovald to have it just that he would accept the end result of the trial.
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And it was also a private reprimand. Genn was not publicly censured for his actions or even the loss of what was that time, the Alliance’s last skyship. (They did make more)
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The end result of the trial is facing Odyn himself, who I doubt Skovald could have beaten. If anything, Odyn really wanted the players to have the Aegis for one reason or another.
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Technically you pick up the shield before fighting Odyn. I think the requirement of fighting him afterward was more because all of the dungeon quests in Legion required you to finish the run, so that people wouldn’t just drop group the moment they got what they came for.
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That trial was, seemingly, actually optional. Beating the old kings has Odyn say we got the Aegis and claimed it when Skovald shows up. Fighting Odyn was for our names carved and a reward (treasure).
Not disagreeing he wanted us to have it. Just that he was clearly willing to give it to Skovald if he succeeded.
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Willing? I think reluctant is the better word here.
Reluctantly willing.
A perfect example of an oxymoron
Is “I was just following orders” an acceptable excuse now? It doesn’t even apply to Sylvanas, who was eager to take Gilneas after she came back from being dead, so she was more than just doing things because Garrosh forced her to.
If the Forsaken never bring it up in the story it’s not actually a canon motivation for the Forsaken or Sylvanas attacking Gilneas.
Which is not the same as caring about them, it just means she’s decided to be less wasteful of them. My point still stand that Edge of Night and its depiction of the attack on Gilneas the first big exploration of the idea that Sylvanas never cared about the Forsaken.
But you still do the quests, don’t you? Even preferring better rationale, going along with weak rationale is not really putting that into practice.
Yes, but Mernna’s idea was written on the idea that Genn was not reprimanded by Anduin, when he was.
Do we actually have indication that Odyn would actually have given Skovald the Aegis? I don’t think he would, given his speech after the Aegis turn in quest:
- Odyn says: It is good to see the Aegis of Aggramar safe from the likes of Skovald and his fel allies.
Odyn says: You have a monumental task ahead of you, < name >. No doubt the skalds will sing the verses of your glory for ages to come.
Odyn says: Go forth, champion, and show this Burning Legion the fury of the Valarjar!
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If Odyn could simply refuse to give the shield to Skovald no matter what, then why would he be concerned about it being kept safe from him in the first place?
Why would Odyn be any safer from the Legion than the titan watches in Ulduar?
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My guess is that he was probably “honor-bound” to award the shield to whoever passed the trials, no matter who they might be. Otherwise he could have just given it away to Dalaran from the start or something, instead of making the player character jump through hoops to get it.
Didn’t you conveniently leave out “to the victor goes the spoils?”
Either way, I think Odyn would have smashed Skovald if he beat us. He knew Skovald was working with the Legion.
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That feels like an assumption. Did any quest or anything actually say this?
Making the player character “prove their valor” is as often Odyn seeking amusement as much as it is him trying to test if the player even had the potential to actually do what Odyn would want them to do. And other times it’s because Odyn is bored and wants you to entertain him.
I just copy-pasted from here:
If Skovald had passed all the trials odyn would would have awarded him the shield.
Skovald hadn’t passed the trials. He attempted to cheese the contest by claiming the shield after the dungeon group had already overcome the trials. I think in this circumstance Odyn would have just struck him down dead for his impudence and disrespect for the sanctity of the trials.
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Well, no. But you’re right that it’s an assumption, which is why I started the sentence with “my guess”. 
I know, but a lot of people seem to treat the idea that Odyn would have just given the Aegis to the Legion as fact to somehow discount the idea that Sylvanas making an enemy of him during Legion would have been a bad thing.
ah. Odyn says “to the victor goes the spoils” but I can’t remember if it’s after we beat skovald, or after we beat him… either way, even if Odyn was honor bound to let Skovald claim the Aegis, he wasn’t honorbound not to kick the crap out of him and take it back afterward.
It’s weird, like he “passes” the trials outside of the HOV, but instead of just defeating Yotnar he blows him to pieces, then enslaves the dragons to force their blessing, I’m not sure if he does face anything in the HOV. Odyn tells him that we were there first, but doesn’t really tell Skovald he is a cheater, or really tell him that he is a POS for joining the legion. But somehow Skovald seems to think that Odyn will count all this stuff as passing his trial.
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It’s after we beat the four kings, before Skovald even gets there:
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TL:DR version
Purple lady bad, Pink Boy Good
Red Bad, Blue Good.
Go on with your lives folks
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