Why so much hate over high elf options

Have you seen the numbers of players who play Void Elves/Blood Elves but want Alliance Blood Elves compared to Tauren players?

Come on, man. There are almost never enough to keep anything Tauren related on the front page unless it’s “Death to Baine.”

Edit: Or “Tauren are so ugly, we want Blood Elf Druids because ewwwww.”

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The Kul Tiran hair textures were something I suggested instead of Blood Elf hair textures to avoid more copy/paste from them. I suggested some Human hairstyles for the same reason.

I have to agree with Rhuor Nico, this is the go to HE fan tagline anytime people want core races to come first too, or against anti HE fans, its very on brand and I don’t like it.

I’ll say why I dislike it too, because the pie analogy about 1 slice vs 2 it feels like a pretty decoration for trying to steal the last slice, like “don’t worry about the fact we got two already, ignore that, just mind your business” thats how it comes off to me.

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Funny part is it isn’t disingenuous because you actively believe this against the fact that Blood Elves have actually gotten customization alongside all other core races, you just see it as unfit and request more, which is fine and dandy until you begin putting it ahead of customization that ARs haven’t officially received because YOU’RE not satisfied with it.

Doesn’t mean you didn’t get any, I think its about time we stop pretending to be the victim Lann.

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If the community was not so annoying and terrible.

I would not mind a lot of things.

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My stance on all core races coming first before AR’s only bothers you because you want more HE options now, and thats fine stay bothered. I’ll keep stating my stance that you regurgitate back to fit your narrative, but at the end of the day it bothers you I remind Blizzard they said core races were coming first.

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(Commentary): Good grief, what did I walk into? This thread just seems like a High Elf witch hunt. Between people saying Void Elves shouldn’t get anything ever again to accusing people of asking for hair colors and hair styles to be insatiable crybabies who will never be happy, I don’t even know where to begin.

(Exasperation): Good grief, people. Go for walks, step away from the computer, and when you get back start putting the posters who annoy you on Ignore already. Do yourself and everyone else a favor. These hissy fits don’t do anything productive in the slightest.

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Not at all, I believe it as well, im also not a selfish liar like you are.

Because it is absolute fact, that Blood Elves, like all other core races, have received varying levels of customization.

That means they did go first my guy, your opinion on the quality of their customization doesn’t disprove this fact and you using that as a crutch to prevent others for asking for their individual customization is laughable.

But no one is stealing anything Lann, except perhaps exclusivity, and in the case of skin tones, even that’s debatable if you look at it from the perspective that Blood Elves are not the only race with a selection of RL human skin tone options. I mean, in game Humans have them, Gnomes have them, Dwarves have them, Kul Tirans have them, etc.

And I’m sorry Lann but the reason you dislike me telling people to ask for what they want instead of complaining about what others are asking for seems silly to me. Why the heck should you worry about what I got and/or what I am asking for, instead of devoting your time and energy to asking for what you want?

What is complaining about what the “other guy” has or is asking for, going to get you? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And I know you know that.

I’m not telling anyone to “mind their own business” Lann. I’m only trying to get the point across that it’s a waste of time complaining about someone else, instead of putting that energy towards getting what you want. You won’t find me in other “give my race this option” topics telling them “No! You shouldn’t have that! You already got X & Y! Why should you get Z too?!”.

Doing that does nothing for me. It does not advance me towards my goal. Asking for what I want does.

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It’s astonishing to me how you can see this dude as good people Nico, you have the patience of a saint.

We’ve both had this talk with him simultaneously in innumerable threads.

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“Varying levels of customizations for core races” lol

Core races should take priority Cezol, :hugs: all of them, so yeah.

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Yes, what do you think varying levels mean, ill tell ya, since its obviously a hard concept for you: it’s more than 0.

You honestly complaining about skin tones that Blood Elves also received?

Sorry kid, Blood Elves got customization and Core races did go first, it’s time for ARs to shine :heart:

(Commentary): Lannisterian is a good person. He’s deeply upset by the extremely lackluster customizations that Blood Elves received, and I don’t think anyone can fault him there. The sad reality is that, at the end of the day, Blood Elves mostly got stuff High Elf players were asking for; darker skin tones, ear length options, fuller beards, jewelry, blue eyes, etc… I don’t think it comes as a surprise to anyone that most of this stuff isn’t really what Blood Elf players wanted and, if they were aware going into this that Void Elves would’ve received High Elf skin tones, then they would’ve been asking from the start for a second distinct visual identity, such as the Dark Rangers or San’layn.

(Commentary): I think a lot of Blood Elf players feel cheated right now, and its very easy to lash out at the High Elf crowd simply because, despite receiving what amounts to very little work, it’s still a significant visually impactful addition. I don’t think most of the Blood Elf crowd is handling this the right way though. They should be asking for more stuff, creating threads with lists of customizations and justifications for them. Tearing down other races’ requests or attempting to play gatekeeper with them just doesn’t seem like it’ll accomplish anything at the end of the day. Two years of it didn’t stop Void Elves from getting High Elf options, so I don’t see why it’ll start working now.

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I take quantity over quality when it comes to customizations. What worgen got was neither quality or quantity, but a dissapointment.

Check this thread to see some of the things I wish were implemented for worgen.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/worgen-customization-is-extremely-underwhelming-for-shadowlands

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Because it feels like this analogy.

Uh-huh. Well I disagree, core races are still lacking and Blizzard should redirect back to them because of it.

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After reading about half of this thread and skimming the rest, this is the truest thing I’ve read so far.

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I think Lann is just frustrated at this point. It’s only now that we’re near launch and he sees that more options aren’t going to be coming for a bit, that he’s become more upset in his posting from what I’ve seen. And I understand why he’d be frustrated and upset.

Blood Elves got several options yes, but between the fact that their entire selection of skin tones was shared, a fair chunk of their new options are jewelry that only females can use (some of which are hidden under armor), and the thing I think he wanted most (Darkfallen aesthetic options) didn’t materialize for launch, has really brought him down. His displeasure isn’t unjustified in my opinion.

But he and I have also had several positive interactions and I won’t judge him for showing his frustration over the disparity he’s seeing. Had Blood Elves at least gotten the Darkfallen aesthetics I think he might be a bit more chill right now.

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And i’m right there with him, i don’t have anything against anyone asking about customizations for any race, even if I care absolute 0 of said race.

Lann is using a blatant lie as a way to halt others from requesting their own things: Not because he didn’t actually receive anything, but because he doesn’t like it.

Oh im sure they will, after they wrap up the lengthy AR customization that is owed to all players who are fans of ARs.

Blizzard doesn’t turn the bus around because some of us don’t like our presents Lann, the game isn’t catered to your sensibilities.

(Observation): Impossible. People will ask and continue asking. It’s not as if he is a Moderator who can delete and close threads to silence the requests. He can express his discontent, but the tragedy therein is that he’s mostly wasting his time and energy.

(Commentary): Right now my hope is that when Void Elves are worked on that Blood Elves receive more options at the same time. The new skin tones, for example, need updated underwear. Perhaps the undead skin tones for Dark Rangers can get underwear at the same time, and be opened up to players as well.

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