That makes no sense?
He was answering the Original Post by citing an example.
dang it really took that long for such a sophisticated response huh?
Itâs funny cause I want to support having a High Elf option but their fans make it really difficult to want to support them. Like at least respect Blood Elf lore lmao
He responded to my factual post with goalpost moving nonsense. What else was I supposed to say?
You might want to check what this word means when the lore literally states:
The blood elves (or sinâdorei, âchildren of the bloodâ in Thalassian â pronounced [ËsiËndÉraÉȘ], [siËnËdÉraÉȘ] or [siËndÉreÉȘ]) are high elves who changed their name after the Scourge invasion of QuelâThalas. Their new name is a dirge, referencing both the blood of their many brethren who fell during the Third War, and their royal lineage.
Again, ask for High Elves, but donât disregard the actual lore lmao.
I said
Blue eyes with the Alliance = High Elves
Green eyes with the Horde = Blood Elves
That is a factual statement and itâs been that way for over a decade. And then in another post I pointed out that it doesnât even matter anymore since both sides can now look like those Alliance High Elves.
You were the one that brought up Void elves. I was was specifically talking about the difference between the high elves of the alliance vs blood elves of the Horde. They had very obvious distinguishing features up until these new customization options.
Except blood elves with blue eyes started appearing intermittently when? Like, Cata or MoP?
I know? Thatâs why I specifically said âBlue eyed elves WITH THE ALLIANCE = High Elvesâ.
And neutral blue eyed elves who oppose the Alliance, what are those?
Depends what they wanna call themselves I guess.
But if you are a green eyed elf on the Horde side you have always been a blood elf. If you are a blue eyed elf on the alliance side then you have always been called a high elf.
But as I have said multiple times now it doesnât even matter anymore since all the elves can look like alliance high elves now. So that distinguishing feature is no longer applicable.
iâd defend peeps more voraciously, but my hands right now are in such a bad way, the fingers are stiffening up and making it hard to type. if i confront someone, i can expect a debate, and i cant do debates atm.
The OP was talked to about this and has now changed it.
Iâll add that my trans husband and I both saw it originally and he didnât see it as negative, just meant to point out a freer mindset.
I can totally see how you see it though. It gave me pause after all.
Just wanted to let people know.
Pretty much this, as fond as I am of Cezol and I do agree with him on some points, he really needs to work on be more respectful when voicing them, as do other pros. I have been in his shoes and understand that heâs mimicking some of the behavior heâs experienced himself, so this hasnât always been a one way street, as Iâve gone for the throat myself in the past, but we all need to make an effort to choose our battles and be more respectful in our discourse.
Like I disagree with Lann on a few points and did challenge on them somewhat, but he doesnât deserve to be painted as spiteful and selfish for putting his race first. Nor is he the only one to prioritize his race over others, as we all do to an extent. Iâve also had meaningful discourse with Tarrok in the past, so he at least has my respect.
They certainly donât deserve nearly the amount of hate theyâre getting in this thread, nor do the other bystanders who are having their heads bitten off merely having their opinion on the matter.
I will also say that I donât approve of those who are also here just to stir the pot.
I also have to say that I really donât like where this thread and this subject are going. It also saddens me to see people I respect getting into it for the better part of 900 posts, which I have neither the time nor energy to keep up with.
got no manâs sky for my bday. i go play that when wow or the forums are getting on my nerves. mindlessly running around on alien worlds, shooting rocks with a laser, is cathartic
p.s. they need numlock for autorun. having to keep the pressure on the button constantly, actually triggers the arthritis currently destroying the joints in my wrist.
Iâm glad that was addressed.
I have to just say my other and actually my first issue was they equated the skin tone diversity on Elves to being âlore breakingâ and used that as the pretext to argue for something ânon lore breakingâ like tails for Worgen.
Then I noticed the issue bourbon pointed out which has been addressed you said and Iâm glad for. So there was two for me anyways one which has since been addressed. I appreciate the OP made that decision after discussion though.
Yes happy birthday Hyper my Mars is in Libra so assuming youâre a Libra a feel you.
You have the new VE customizations to use on Hyper to look forward to later this month too!
Except he didnât do that. Lann was saying that core races generally need to be caught up and then the other allied races that still need considerable work⊠the focus shouldnât continue to be VE. He never said BE should be the focus.
I think that gets confused because when I argue for actual specific customizations or when I talk about disparity in detail it focuses on BEs but thatâs only because thatâs what Iâm knowledgeable on.
And yes I try to time and time again make it clear my stance is core races were kind of the selling point of customizations, and I think the pass they were given seems rushed.
So the idea I would say âBlood Elves should be the first core race being done!â is inaccurate. Would I be happy for that if it comes up yeah itâs a core race? If they want to do worgen or Pandaren before then Iâm also happy. Dragonmaw for Orcs! Etc. like I hope thatâs clear and it seems to be to some but then others keep latching on to like idk what Iâm not saying.
Core races is my argument you are correct thank you for understanding what Iâm saying. But I also feel like Iâve been clear so I have to question why arenât people at least being honest about what Iâm saying whether they agree with me or not. And itâs not the first time Iâve made my stance clear as I have in this thread and Iâm sure the clock will be reset in another thread and Iâll have to do it again but at some point Iâm like whatâs not clicking at least disagree with me honestly without saying what Iâm not saying.
And just to add on as well not only do other ARs imo and my stance should come before VEs but also void elf fans of Void customizations where do they come into play?