Anti-Void Elf light skin tone threads.
I agree. Anti-threads get annoying sometimes.
Is it lore that void elves wouldn’t have light skin? Not like there would be much lore on a race that just barely got added. And nah, anti threads aren’t always as annoying as cult like threads who are convinced their race, class, ect will be added no matter what.
Was there some kind of development that necessitated a 10-month necro?
It fits the shadowlands theme?
Alleria is a Ren’dorei. She has light skin. So playable Velfs have a lore reason they can.
Just because Alleria transformed differently doesn’t mean we turn that logic into “Other Ren’Dorei are turned differently therefore no light skin tone, that’s because Alleria is different.”
I still think anti-threads can be toxic without a good reason, but I do think there are worse threads like the cult ones you describe. cough Helf thread cough
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Isn’t a high elf just when a Night Elf uses arcane magic?
Most often but technically not true. There are Highborne warriors. Highborne is just a social class of Night Elves. Arcane knowledge was exclusive to this upper class but not every one of them were studying it. I think there are Highborne priests and warriors.
Not going to lie.
That community has been nothing but nice to me when i was in there discord.
I frequent the forums and i have never seen any toxic san’layn fans.
And i don’t even support it as an allied race, i think it can just be customization just like forsaken Blood elves.
I think you’re just trying to detest a group of people for the sake of it. But if it’s a void elf poster i can almost always assume it’s spite involved.
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They don’t have to be a race, they could be a customization. Or at least give us the eyes.
Its obvious they would never be a thing, no matter how much people puttheadcanon in then
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San’layn are objectively evil, a wicked and vile race of bloodsucking undeads, they unlike normal undeads, have a curse that make then feed on blood and lives, even after they became free from the Lich king they keep doing their evil acts.
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They were supposed to be extinct after the fall of the lich king, hunted down by everyone else there. If they keep sprouting out of nowhere, then its safe to say they are just killing more people and doing more, again, an evil race.
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they had to relevance in the story and it will never have, i pointed out many times that, only one was partially in the horde only because Sylvanas, as the evil crap she was, start recruiting evil people to do what she say without morals, since most of the horde would not it, then every one of then was killed by the alliance, and their story died, wanting they keep going, even mroe that Sylvanus left was completely nonsense and wishful thinking.
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the Horde doesn’t want then, Even Rokhan and Talanji dislike then, saying they don’t know Sylvanus let then in, and they sure were right for not trusting then, since one of then end up killing his own subordinates to feed and implied he did to others, who want those sh1theads by their side?
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They do not match the horde thematic or aesthetic, they are a race of evil and foul individuals who have nothing to do with the horde thematic of brotherhood, shamanism and tribalism, grant it, not all horde races are shamans and in tribes, but everyone at least share the concept of brotherhood, loyalty, honor, even the undeads. San’layn are direct oppose of it
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They made no sense to be in the horde, again, a race of evil people who only care about their thirst and power, they have no reason to join any faction(if its to feed on then and overthrow then in secret) or fight for then in a faction war.
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they are just another damn elf option that nobody want it
8)Everybody who want then are forcing their headcanon about good goody vampires who are not evil and maybe shine in the sun
And now that the history is going forward to nowhere close to then, and with the possibility to venthyr becoming an allied race(actuall the OG vampires, who are not elves, but denizens of the shadowlands) those bloodsucking elves can die in peace.
I was going to keep my mouth shut but I’m going to say one thing because I’m sick of you badmouthing my community and I behind my back.
I honestly don’t care if you don’t want San’layn, nor if you think they’d be a bad idea to be added. Disagreements happen all the times on these forums, and we’ve had arguments left and right on the matter.
At this point, I’ll respond in just a few points to this.
- What you’re saying is just like if I said orcs could never have distinct personalities other than rage because of what they did in the past. San’layn are intelligent undead and we even saw in BfA they were looking for a home in the Horde. No matter how you try to build it, they’re undead with free will like Forsaken and Death Knights.
- Stop speaking for everyone and speak for yourself. “Nobody wants it” is simply untrue. My community might be small, but yes, we want them. The vampire elves from Wrath.
- San’layn being extinct in Wrath and now is headcanon. None of that has ever been confirmed, and it has no weight.
Argue back all you want with those points, I’m not going to repeat myself (AGAIN). All in all you can disagree with everything I’m saying. That’s fine.
But hate the idea. Not the people. Saying my community are a bunch of “Goody goody Twilight lovers” is ridiculous. You go out of your way to be insulting because we want elves. That’s like if I hated you for playing orcs.
For the love of gods, stop painting my community into something it’s not. I’ll even say I’ve written four novels completely unrelated to Warcraft with emphasis on vampires that are very heavy with gore. No, they don’t sparkle in the sun, they’re extremely deadly and there’s a mixture of good and evil. You know, because a story with a mindlessly evil race has no actual point.
Just because we want vampires that actually have substance rather than being mindlessly evil doesn’t mean we want a bunch of Twilight slop. Just because something doesn’t look hideous doesn’t mean it can’t be a monster.
So hate the idea of San’layn, beg for it to never be added, I don’t care. But stop saying we’re something that we’re not because you don’t like our ideas.
Edit: I even said this TEN MONTHS AGO to exactly what you said here and you STILL repeat this nonsense! Cut it out!
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Well… they apparently already gave the San’layn to the Horde… the only problem is, they forgot to tell the Horde and had them killed off before anything more could happen.
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I wouldn’t give it much grievance. He also seems to be the same way towards the High Elf community. Which is perfectly fine in my opinion. But I see a trend personally. However, his main argument revolves around the “San’layn” Being evil because of their “thirst” which would be harming others. This is immediately refuted once you realize that the Death Knights literally almost have the exact same desire to harm others but still exist because they are frontliners and do it to their enemies. It is not far-fetched to say the same with the San’layn imo.
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Who? that is mutch projecting thinking im talking about you in particular, but if the shoe fits
You care enough to answer me.
Either way, there is a difference between opinions and something objectively bad overall.
No, its not, again, the fallacy of the analogy. They are not even comparable.
It would be the same, if the orcs, keep acting just like they did in the past while they were under demonic influence, like the sanlayn do even after the influence of the Lk is over.
Thats completely false, they were not trying to build a home in the horde and is disingenuous to say they were.
They only allied with sylvanas to get their way with their foul and vile acts and of course free foo, cause she would be totally ok with their acts if it implies blind loyalt.
The no mention about then after that only further prove that.
They are undead with free will and they chose to be evil, to suck the life out of the living, just like the prince sylvanas put in charge there, sucking their own subordinates when nobody apparently as seeing.
Youw ant that kind of thing? in the horde? no.
But wait, youa re going to tell me it was just an exception, other sanlayn are different, the ones who don’t exist, those are different, and just want to live in peace in a home like the horde.
No, thats a completely nonsense headcanon and wishful thinking.
Obviously when im talking about “nobody wants” then, its about the lore, the horde as it is in the lore, don’t want blood sucking evil races who will feed on their back when no one is sawing. You completely missed the point to grasp at straws
You can want then all you want, but not in my horde, it is already desecrated enough
Thats why i said they were supposed to be, its another retcon in the story.
With that i further said if there is more it means they are just creating more, doing exactly something the horde condemns, and obviously is completely different from raising someone who was already dead and sucking the life out of a living creature and transforming then in abominations.
Im mean i already argued countless times before, and will repeat again as many times its necessary.
I don’t hate the people, i hate elves, in general, again, you are projecting.
Am i wrong? you want good vampires, one of the most evil monsters in fiction, to join a faction that is all about Brotherhood, honor, Loyalty, Shamanism and spiritism and focused on the tribal and clan system with few exceptions.
In wow they ARE an objectively evil race, to make that join a faction they have to make then good goody just like they did with worgen, With worgen at least, they had plenty of ways to retcon in a way that made sense >control the curse< is a easy way around and made it a druidic thing. With the vampire elves? they are evil, even without the control of the Lich king, there is indeed a curse born probably from the shadowlands, there is no way around, to again, make then good goody?
Not just that, with all the other implications it comes with they someway somehow joining a faction like the horde.
you can if you want, but im not hating a single person, i just cited what i saw, there is nowhere aggression or hate, for someone who want evil dark races, you don’t seem to have thick skin
Ah yes, the good old fanfiction, im sure there is love, and romance with humans and etcetera.
Look friend, i don’t hate vampires in general, like i told you many times, i even played the the Vampire RPG, love the underworld movies, i even like the chronicles of hagen von stein.
My dear problem is they shoving this thing as it is, a foul, wicked and evil race, not like your headcanon of good and evil, in the horde, a faction who have nothing to do with then, who is all about the things i said.
Saying that, Venthyr? until now im mostly in favor for they becoming an allied race, tottally different from the evil vampire elves, and actually really catch what is a vampire.
If you still want sanlayn over venthyr only show people care about again, pretty elves.
Like i said, everybody want to force their headcanon about good vampires, something the sanlayn are not.
The rest about twilight, obviously the thing it hit rightin the nerve, i said maybe i was not doing any afirmation
but can’t you say for certain, that nobody wants then because they like twilight? come on, like or not, some people do like that movies.
It is, i hate elves, and i don’t want anymore in the game, and i use any lore and canon sources to voice that
This is funny because your own response refuts your argument.
The key word here is “almost” have, almost.
Now lets adress how san’layn make no sense and Death knights do:
Death knights are still noble souls who want to do good, protect either the world or their factions, they, like they said, are willingly to pay the price the living can’t, by being once part of the factions they are bind by their sense of duty and loyalism. San’layn don’t.
Death knights after they freed from the Lich were not subjectivelly evil, the Sanl’ayn? still are.
Death knight npcs don’t appear killing their own soldiers with their thirst, Sanlayn do.
Death knights are hero classes, much like warlocks and demon hunters are very special circumstances, they are individuals who mostly live far away and only come when they are needed., put an entire horde of DK in horde cities would be a bad idea.
And most important, DKs are not exclusive elves.
And i said again, if you want vampire elves, play a Blood elf Blood DK, it is what a Vampire looks like, dead elf who suck blood
You’re entirely right. Based on that ridiculous response, I’m done responding to someone who just constantly belittles and insults. Even had the nerve to call a world I created and wrote “fanfiction”. What an absolute joke. Sorry, my novels at 100k+ words aren’t fanfiction as much as people want to pretend I don’t know what I’m doing. (Even more obvious he’s just being hugely rude by insulting someone’s work having not even seen it. True colors? Even more so)
Well the rest of the community can see how utterly ridiculous he is. He’s doing it to himself and if he wants to be a spiteful person then fine. Numerous people have been on my side in this and they’re what matters.
At this point, it’s literally a matter of “I don’t like elves and am going to insult you for liking elves while patting myself on the back.” Not to mention feigning innocence after being insulting as heck. Just a whole lot of ‘nope’.
Pinnacle of the WoW community right there. 
Edit: Also… Underworld has romance. People who whine about romance need to grow up. Oh look… so does World of Warcraft. The fact that someone thinks romance being in a story somehow makes it lesser is a big yikes. Sorry some can’t make a story with substance beyond “DIS GUD, DIS EVIL”. My gods.
Ugh, it’s 5 AM and I’m bored. I wonder what GD’s up to right n-
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There is fewer of them than High Elves.
Therefore they can never, ever be playable.
Them’s the rules.
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Vampires are like a corona cough. Throw one of them out into a crowded public place, and suddenly you’ve got a huge problem on your hands (in 3 to 15 days, of course).
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The number of San’layn active has never been confirmed. Legit, not been said in lore anywhere. So the whole “less San’layn than ‘x’” has no source.
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This smells like a “If you’re going to hate and dash on my dreams of a high elf then i’m going to hate and dash on your dreams of a different kind of elf thread” Tbh i’m against high elves i hope it never happens and you know what else? I could care less about the San’layn. I win in both catagories so ha!