Why must I PvE to do better in PvP? šŸ˜”

Iā€™m with you, but in the opposite direction. I absolutely cannot stand PvP, and really donā€™t like being made to do it to obtain essences needed for some of my characters. Especially when I canā€™t even share these essences, so they ALL have to do this excessively unenjoyable grind. So I feel ya.

World of WARcraft.

How tf is there suppose to be no Player vs Player in a game called world of WARcraft?

Someone find the vid of the original WoW creators stating that PvP is a major part of the game as well.

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End of game rewards are trash. Conquest chest only good if youā€™re high rated. Easier time getting higher rated if you have godly pve gear.

When I saw that I literally said that it wonā€™t work. Had people come and tell me that I was dumb and this would be a good thing for WOW. I just want to see the look on their faces.

I didnā€™t say anything about removing it but call it what it is, a side game. Itā€™s part of the game but no where near a main part.

sees thread
cracks knuckles
tuck and rolls into thread like mccree
clears throat and tips hat

You are NOT getting pvp vendors.

moonwalks out of thread

It used to be a close second to PvE. Now it is on the levels of pet battles, aka thrown in the dumpster.

And the game is worse off for it, congrats?

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I definitely think that pvp gear needs some kind of special trait to make it PVP gear, but resilience was a hindrance to new players. I got into PVP late once and it took a solid two weeks of grinding before I had the gear to not get instantly murdered while having my own spells glance off.

The WoD system of gear scaling up in combat with no PvP exclusive stats was best imo.

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Your ā€œpvpā€ community is a lot smaller than you think and always has been, even with vendors. When you guys werenā€™t crying about losing vendors, you attacked every other aspect this game has to offer. Throw a dart at a board full of sticky notes filled with excuses, that will be the next P.O.I, lolā€¦

PVP is so broken at the moment that dude I just pretty much wait for the arena servers to go live and get my PVP fix there

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PvE players will never understand

If it was so ā€œsmallā€ then how come they removed vendors to cater to the PvE centric crowd? Let PvE gear be best for PvE and PvP gear be best for PvP. Or is it that the PvE crowd need to have it all? Do you honestly expect the PvP enthusiasts to be left with scraps and be thankful?

If blizzard really wants to fix PVP there is a simple solution.

Add a new server that works like the arena server. No one will need an auction house because everybodyā€™s in the same gear no one will care about making gold. There is no war mode on This Server there is no way to turn PVP off. The server would just be an all-out bloodbath all the time.

Everyone would be in the same gear. What everyone would be farming on this server is titles and achievements. The only people who would even create a character on this server is pvpers.

This way you keep your hardcore pvpers happy and you also keep them separated from your Raiders. You donā€™t have to worry about trying to balance the two. Raiders would not care what went down on this server because they would not have a character there.

Simple easy fix

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My method for bringing people back to this dumpster of an expansion:

  1. Bring back raid tier and pvp set bonuses unique to each spec
  2. Allow factions to do dungeons and raids with eachother via merc mode
  3. Remove rep requirements for allied races and pathfinder (MAUs will happen naturally if you have a good product)
  4. Allow more race/class choices
  5. Remove TF/WF/Corruption forge design, gear should have static value
  6. Bring back pvp vendors (honor for the starter set, and conquest for the end set)
  7. Make professions relevant
  8. Roll class toolkits back to what they had in MoP and remove the clunky GCD mechanic

Add more if you want but IMO these would make the game sooo much better than it currently is.

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Because PvP in this game has been abandoned and Classes have been destroyed. Its over. Dont expect Shadowlands be any better or D4 6 button joke game.

More than likely that is the result. With the level squish they are intending it is going to be an imbalanced mess on the PvE side as well.

that actually happened in BC, pvp was better itemized (and easier to get) than pve gear for certain classes.

and there was no backlash

Easy fix, make gear from PvP content scale up in PvP and remain low in PvE. Similar to how it was in WoD.