Why LGBT representation in games matters:

Viserthemad-mannoroth · January 28, 2021, 1:46am

Naw dawg, gimme the outland gnomes as an allied race.

Vicktoria-area-52 · January 28, 2021, 1:51am

What were they called?
Desert gnomes
Dirt gnomes?
I can’t remember now
Terakor forest gnomes
Pygmy gnomes?

Viserthemad-mannoroth · January 28, 2021, 1:52am

Gnomes the new trolls

Waidmann-gilneas · January 28, 2021, 1:56am

Sounds good to me .

So what you are saying is you want reasonable representation

Baridorielor-malfurion · January 28, 2021, 2:01am

Can you show us evidence that confirms that? because i might i’ve missed that.

Viserthemad-mannoroth · January 28, 2021, 2:07am

Nah I don’t care either way. I want to recreate my dad and troll him online mostly.

Waidmann-gilneas · January 28, 2021, 2:28am

Oh so what you are saying is you want to make your dad into a short Mexican joke

Bubbleblast-benediction · January 28, 2021, 2:57am

So then, why do you care if the quest is about LGBT? If you just click and accept without reading quest text, why do you care if it happens to be a gay character with a love story attached to it?

Waidmann-gilneas · January 28, 2021, 3:09am

I have a question does it specifically have to say any where that the character is in the LGBT spectrum as part of their defining story or is it just a foot note in regards to over all aspect of the character?

Ok what I am asking is being part of the LGBT spectrum (and sorry for the term just using it because said character is hypothetical so no real idea of what character is) the main aspect of the character or is it just a minor part of the character?

Spy-azuremyst · January 28, 2021, 3:10am

Good question.

Squiggins-aegwynn · January 28, 2021, 3:11am

You need to update your perspective. This ‘spectrum’ is now a 2-dimensional vector space.

Oedon-kilrogg · January 28, 2021, 3:13am

This trash thread is still going on? Figured the mods would have 404 it by now.

Spy-azuremyst · January 28, 2021, 3:15am

If it was about anything else in this sphere, they would have. But, they have to nod and pat them on the head for how brave they are.

Oedon-kilrogg · January 28, 2021, 3:16am

How quant.

Waidmann-gilneas · January 28, 2021, 3:16am

Nope we are talking about a company in California. Even if it is a troll thread because of the topic and where they are , they are going to virtual signal this thread and others like it . The most they may do is move it to the story forums or maybe to off topic.

Oedon-kilrogg · January 28, 2021, 3:17am

Story forums truly is the maw of the forums.

So what’s going on with cali?

Waidmann-gilneas · January 28, 2021, 3:19am

Uh home of Blizzard .

That state will virtual signal just about anything.

Oedon-kilrogg · January 28, 2021, 3:20am

Very true. So glad I got out years ago.

California is like the backwater sewage dump of the world.

Isarn-veknilash · January 28, 2021, 4:25am

Meau:

But the problem is that marginalized groups such as LGBTQ+ communities have been marginalized because of these very things. You say it’s irrelevant, but I’d wager the reason why we haven’t seen many LGBTQ+ characters is because of what LGBTQ+ people identify as. When you say it’s not important, you’re still actively pushing their identity out of the way and suppressing their voice because you don’t want to face it. It might not be as aggressive as people outright saying “I don’t want gay people in my video game”, but it is still a form of avoidance on the subject and discrimination that they’ve faced.

What many people don’t understand is that having a character whose story is about their sexuality isn’t so much pushing an agenda more than it is a statement that says “Hey, we exist”.

I’m with you, partially. I wish we could treat everyone as normal; that the night elf mage in a certain story, for example, could just be a night elf mage that happens to like the same sex, but because opposing viewpoints don’t want to treat them as normal or equal, we have to have these discussions and stories at the forefront, and we will continue having these discussions until people can see threads such as this one, and be indifferent about it no matter how troll-ish it might come off. Until then, for every person that reacts negatively to threads that ask for LGBTQ+ representation, that’s just another person who’s working against the idea of normalizing it.

It’s 2021. They’re not being marginalized. If anything, they’re being overrepresented, relative to the proportion of the population they are. I’m saying that who someone sleeps with, loves, whatever, is largely unimportant in most cases. That includes straight people too. Yet, who someone lays their head down next to at night is interjected into circumstances where it’s not warranted, at all. I don’t identify myself by my sexuality, it’s nobody’s business.

As for normalization, LBGTQ+ by definition, aren’t ‘normal’. That isn’t to say they’re not equal, or not equally as deserving to live their lives as they see fit, but they’re nowhere near as commonplace as heterosexual people.

People are going to react negatively to these threads, because a tiny fraction of the playing population want things that have no bearing whatsoever on the story shoehorned into it. I am almost 100% certain no straight person looks at any toon in the game and thinks ‘hey, they like they opposite sex just like I do’.

Bubbleblast-benediction · January 28, 2021, 5:18am

2021 is looking amazing for lgbt rights. Our president is very set on being progressive and that will reflect in our media. Blizzard will surely add more representation for for LGBT. It’s only a matter of time. Thank you in advance Blizzard.