Why isn't there LFR for heroic raids?

Unlikely since I never use queued content.

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And a part of me wants to watch it.

Queues are important. They’re a last resort so that people who are (a) so bad at the game that nobody will play with them, or (b) so unpleasant to be around that nobody will play with them.

Why anybody ELSE would ever queue for anything though…

Then why are you saying it would filter me out when I need it? I’d work my way up the queueing system rather than the premade system.

My dude, you didn’t even work your way up through lfr difficulty

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BFA made me quit.

weird that quitting involves a rank 15 cloak

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You said it would filter out bad players. How do you know that wouldn’t include you?

Your definition is, I’m sure, “everybody worse than me” but to somebody 1 rung above you in the ladder, “bad players” means “everybody worse than them” and that would include… you.

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You are a rung below me in terms of opinion.

So it’d filter you out first.

Groups would never make it past the first boss.

Side thought: I wonder if people asking for this realize that there’s no Determination buff on other difficulties.

Hence why the filters. But nah, you’d rather side with the wrong side of the tracks.

HOW would you filter them out?
Proving grounds are crap.
What system do you suggest?
Would a requirement be AOTC for normal or heroic? Why would anyone who did this queue for a probable fail?

Give some specifics on your filtering system. Not one sentence rhetoric.

Go pug if you want a normal (then heroic) group or start your own.

But getting declined is scary =(

They can be updated.

Amount of the previous difficulty kills, Proving Grounds, PVE rating, etc.

As for AOTC, it would speed up your queue and guarantee faster success, but not mandatory.

lol this is the funniest thing I’ve read all day.

Just the current version of LFR is horrific, now imagine that but on a harder difficulty.

There is no matching… all it finds is 2 tanks, 5 healers and 18 dps(or is it 6 healers 17 dps now?)

This retort was more pathetic than your raiding progress.

I don’t care what you call me because you’re so far beneath me it doesn’t matter. You’re like a fat kid trying to give me health advice.

And it isn’t a reality for you. You aren’t brickwalled from content unless you’re trying to overstep. How about you do the thing EVERYONE ELSE DOES and begin working your way into normal groups. Clearing them, because good at doing them then applying to heroic groups that are progressing? It’s like climbing a staircase. You don’t just jump two stairs unless you have the ability to.

Also this is categorically false that you’re brickwalled and disproven by Preach last expansion. Someone who literally bought a fresh account, kept name changing the character every video to stop his fans from helping him and made a series of a freshly boosted toon with literally NO additional help or anything else and got AOTC by pretending to be really bad at the game. You are just lazy.

You think we haven’t dealt with that? Know what the difference is though? When it happened we shrugged and carried on into the next group. We kept our nose to the grindstone. You quit the second you saw adversity and it wasn’t a buttery smooth run. The very fact you quit the second it didn’t go your way tells me all I need to know. If you were self aware it would tell you all you need to know on why you’re stuck in scrub content.

Then go play a singleplayer game because as long as you play anything that involves communication and other people, you’ll be insulted. That is just how it goes. At best you can put yourself in a position to where you aren’t insulted. Or in my case with you, you get insulted by people who are so garbage you don’t care about their opinion because it’s all just emotional blabbering.

And you know what? It’s an ONLINE GAME where you deal with PEOPLE, the same people who inhabit the REAL WORLD. Meaning you’ll see the same trends. I won’t hire somebody to do programming who at best can tell me “I can try really hard” no, I want somebody who I know for a fact can do the job. This is the other stupid argument from people like you. You think because it’s a game that everyone should bend over backwards to cater to you. Get bent. I deal with incompetent morons enough in real life, I shouldn’t need to deal with them in a video game as well. Except I’ve addressed they exist and distanced myself from them.

If you constantly being stuck in a bad spot and being reaffirmed of the fact you’re a loser and haven’t applied any effort to amount to anything reminds you too much of IRL, it sounds like you have bigger issues to tackle in your life than not being carried to a heroic raid clear just because you pay a subscription fee.

Please do, the less people like you we have polluting this game because they seek to undermine the core idea of an MMO because they feel they should be entitled to the same reward for applying none of the effort, the better. Maybe once people like you are gone we might be able to bring this game back to TBC when it was good.

Do you honestly think I care? I responded to you knowing for a fact you’d respond emotionally and lash out because I disagree with you and didn’t like the cold hard truth of it. I also didn’t sugarcoat it because I WANTED you to respond in this way. If anything I’m doing you more of a service by being blunt with you hoping you’ll realize this is just how it is.

You can’t screen people in a queue, maybe figure out how they work.

I have these things happen to me too. Do you honestly think I get the privilege of playing this game free from literally all adversity? I’ve been kicked for having a single off fight from a pug group where I played really poorly despite having orange parses on every single fight before. That’s just how it goes.

But you know what? I never feel like a failure because I put myself to work and I have achievements and credentials I can look at and say “Nah, I definitely am not a failure.”

You’re acting like such a child I imagine if Roman Polanski was reading this thread right now he’d be desperately trying to get in contact with you.

This game is catered more to people like you than it is people like me. This game doesn’t need to be made further friendly to casuals. If anything it needs a severe reduction of it. I can’t have an actual game with things to do because then casuals cry there’s too much expected of them and it isn’t fair. I can’t have meaningful and fun stats on gear because they’re too mathy for people like you and it makes you feel stupid.

You are ruining this game so take your threat earlier of quitting and PLEASE follow through.

Lmao? You’ve ruined this game since 3.3. Blizzard catered to you and changed because they realized it’s an inferior business model but they won’t go whole hog with it like they should be doing. And what do you mean by “nerfing insurance” from me? YOU’VE ALREADY RUINED THE GOD DAMNED GAME TO THE POINT I DON’T EVEN ENJOY PLAYING IT BECAUSE IT’S KIDFOAMED FOR MONKEYS LIKE YOU.

No, your overbearing sense of entitlement is. Know how I can prove this? Because you people existed and cried when the game DIDN’T cater to you and elitism was a trait prevalent in literally less than a single percent of the population. You’ve been crying since forever. Elitism doesn’t cause this. In fact quite the opposite. People like you who kick and scream that the game needs to be further nerfed just so you can do things without applying effort bred more elitism because people are sick and tired of listening to you complain and want you gone.

Lmfao, this game has been so casual since WoD. They outright removed stats because you idiots couldn’t figure them out and didn’t want to deal with them. They outright made everything outside of raiding very simple and streamlined because you didn’t want to be expected to do more than press “Join Queue” and collect free loot spoonfed to you by an overly gimped difficulty. The fact you think this game is somehow not casual friendly is a joke.

Yeah except know what? If LFR didn’t exist maybe you RATS would get better so you could actually clear normal. All LFR does is give you a crutch to lean on and stagnate and never get better because “Oh well I’m already seeing it in LFR and I don’t need to leave my comfort zone.”

I’m not defending the game being bad. I’m trying to force people like you to either get better so we can have a harder game, or quit the game so all that are left are the players who want an actual MMO again and the game can up its sub numbers by being good to play. That begins with either your assimilation or removal. I care not which, all I care is that one of these is met.

I could sit down and still be on a higher level than you. Again, the opinions of a no skill rat are so minor in their importance to me you’re just wasting your breath.

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Someone tells you that you are wrong, without being hostile about it, and you think they are trying to argue with you?

You can’t even work yourself up normally. The only reason the premade system doesn’t work for you is because you are bad and have nothing to prove you’re actually good. Know what I have though? A battletag friends list full of people I have grouped with to where I can not log in for four months and start a new raid tier. Then STILL get an invite to a group because the leader knows I know what I’m doing and collect my AOTC kill.

I don’t need to be babied by a system that makes it impossible for me to be refused because I suck, because I don’t suck and instead I have people who are glad to invite me into their groups because they know I’m good.

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