We just haven’t got to the part of the story where we kill her for purples.
Sylvanas is dead already as far as I’m concerned. With the exit of Metzen at the end of Legion, the BFA writers crashed that plane with no survivors.
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Sylvanas can die and her story can reach it’s end but not for the Night Elves, the Worgen, the Alliance, or even the Horde. Her end has to make the Forsaken satisfied.
It won’t matter that she is gone, she has branded the Forsaken forever.
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They already killed Ysera, Varian and Malygos, only one I hope they don’t kill now is Chronormu. Even then the flight eventually goes crazy and she might be among or killed by them. Deathwing’s line in HotS, not canon it may be, might be another yellow flag. “Give my regards to Murozond.”
Gotta be realistic: I’m probably going to have to put her down one day.
Beyond her? I don’t care anymore, let the characters die.
Because if Sylvanas dies, there will be 98% less things to argue about on story forum.
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Considering Danuser confirmed that she can apparently make as many val’kyr as she wants, does it really matter?
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mezten hasnt been writing the story since cata
Not to be rude, but even when she remained ambiguous as hell in her motives and emotions … Sylvie has never once actually represented the faction well. In many cases, deliberately on her part. So it does bring up the question of what exactly you liked about the Horde, when your defining character for the Horde was one that was a purposeful outlier that was infamous for just using it?
Its fine to love Sylvie, in whatever incarnation or era. But beyond mechanically being part of the faction, she always was just sort of that edgy kid playing with a butterfly knife; while trying act like he’s “too cool for friends” for the Horde.
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Droite, you 100% misunderstood what I was trying to say.
I opposed the villainizing and then the loss of Sylvanas because that represented another piece of the original Horde being taken away and destroyed. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you how little of it remains anymore. It doesn’t matter how “well” or not you think she represented the faction - she and the Forsaken were over there doing their shady thing, and that was just part of it.
By focusing your argument against me on the suitability of Sylvanas, it shows me that you do not grasp in the slightest what my position is.
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heh the most anti horde character, being a representation of the horde, Sylvanas was anti thrall, anti garrosh, and anti voljin, for a faction who is suppose to be like a family that sticks together, sylvanas is more like that bad sister that when you leave her alone in the house when you come back she sold off all your things, for money for herself.
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LOL, well hell there was even one of the funnest lines in War Crimes where she openly admitted that even Lor’themar has never once sided with her on political matters. He’s even the one at the end of SoO stating that she will eventually need to be dealt with; go ahead and talk to him … its sort of funny. Its honestly not surprising that the only leader on the Horde that she ever seemed to “get along with” was Wix, and thats only because he was just using the Horde as much as she was … but in ways that made it easy for her to manipulate him.
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Its literally why I dont see why some players are so for her as a “True” horde character. Just saying that the belves have been more horde than the sylvanas and the forsaken in the 15 years of the story.
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The Horde is not about family. That idea was thrown in the dumpster with Vol’jin. The Horde is about cycling between being genocidal and “honorable”.
The Alliance is about both family and honor and more so than the Horde ever has been or will be.
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You’re not wrong. While aesthetically few races clash as much with the traditional tribal Horde races as the Horde elves, honestly … thematically they’ve done allright for themselves being part of Thrall’s original vision for the Faction.
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Enjoy roasting babies over a fire because the council told you to in two expansions from now and Katiera telling you your faction deserves to have more taken away from it as punishment.
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Y’know, I will. Considering the alternative is to play a faction with less moral ambiguity than the telletubies … think I’ll stick with my red team.
Blizzard is so concerned about maintaining the Alliance’s flawless image that they actually seem scared to write them as anything else but “concepts” … rather than a faction filled with actual people. Its why in an apparent Faction Conflict story they cant even for a moment allow the Alliance be antagonists for the Horde; because that would mean they’d have to be antagonistic. And that’s not a virtue! The Alliance is only comprised of every conceivable virtue.
The Horde has flawed characters, flawed people, and flawed races … and even if Blizz is terrible at realizing this … flaws are what allow for learning and growth. The Alliance, lacking in these paramount “human” traits, have nowhere to grow but backwards. It is a faction identity entirely defined by returning to a status quo; even if which status quo that needs to be returned to varies on which Ally player you ask. You can’t improve on perfection, you can only try to maintain it.
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droite i understand that you are sick that blizzard has the alliance has the good guys, but simply because they decided to ruin the horde with constant villains bats doesn’t mean that they are perfect in any way and does have flawed character the only difference is that these characters are united against a greater threat being the horde or some big bad.
What you are describing is anduin, not the alliance that does have a far more lot potential if blizzard actually cares for anything else that isn’t the horde or their “honor horde” with millions of dollars of CGI cinematics.
You can’t improve when blizzard actively ignores you and make you a side character to the horde story.
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Like your opinion counts lol, you just want the alliance to be the blue horde, nothing about actual nuance.
with that criteria no one’s opinions really matters here. does that mean that your opinion is valid and not mine? seems as a weird standard.
And what do you mean with “you just want to be the blue horde” ? care to explain?
genocide and racism of course. You just want the alliance to do what sylvanas did.