Well, it is a double-edged sword, because when we got the last patch, we didn’t re-play the game to see how it would go through and if it was balanced for Naxx 25/10, Ulduar 25/10. It was balanced for ICC 25 / ICC25 H.
It will be pretty interesting. I will for sure play and stick around to see how things go now.
uhm…didn’t heirlooms come out in wod?
Heirlooms were out in WOTLK. There was more added throughout the expansions, but it was originally in WOTLK.
that would be BECAUSE WRATH DIDN’T HAVE LFR. it had lfd in 3.3 and that was it. lfr wasnt introduced until 4.3 in demon soul. (i think that was the name of the deathwing raid.)
They ruined Anub’arak. Garbage expansion
Dragon, but I want LFR too. If, I’m not interested in playing Cata, why can’t I have it for Wrath? I plan to play wrath forever. The hype-train demographic can board the train and ride.
Just wait and see how many ppl will be willing to follow that hype-train, they’re gonna find themselves more alone than they think.
Anub’arak wasn’t ruined, he was about as relevant in wrath as he was in the game.
Except he was.
He was pretty important in WC3 what are you talkin’ about. He was also interesting. Seems like you’re ok with their reuse of Naxx over them finishing the Azjol-Nerub raid.
Because it’s not a part of Wrath. And raids are going to have a very low barrier of entry as it is.
It’s possible the Wrath servers won’t be as dead as the Classic servers are after going into TBC, but I don’t think it’ll be as popular as you expect. Players like progression a lot more than stagnation.
Anub’arak wasn’t even in Naxx, what are you talking about.
He was the final boss of the ToTC
Never said he was. He was reduced to a dungeon boss and folks complained enough that they threw him into the ToC raid.
They didn’t finish Azjol-Nerub as a raid and opted to make it into dungeons to reuse Naxx. Lazy
Honestly, I think that if heroic/hard modes in Wrath were the default, and the normal modes were called “easy,” it would easily be remembered by practically everyone as the high point of wow. Of course there’s quibbles: death knight tuning was broken at the start, Naxx was always horribly undertuned and not a proper raid tier (the same complaint applies to TBC p1), ICC gating was absolutely horrendous, and catch-up mechanics were maybe a bit too aggressive (arguably the first time a legendary doesn’t last out the expansion). On the other hand, it had a far better solo experience than any prior version of the game and had some of the game’s best and most iconic boss fights. I don’t know much about the pvp situation since I quit pvp early on out of frustration with DKs and the new arenas, but I hear a lot of people talk fondly about WotLK pvp so maybe it’s just me or things got fixed later on.
There were no complaints about TBC P1 being undertuned ? Most of this content had several nerfs because so many players were struggling with it.
Everything else is right tho.
I was one of these players that was playing in progression originally. As the game began to change around me into something I don’t like, I quit and came back for classic, but I already knew Lich King is where I wanted to be.
If I may make an observation on the hype-train demographic, they don’t know what they want out of WoW. They’re just following the crowd, progressing at the same time of course, and just wanting to be where everyone else is. They’re going to firmly take notice when they see how many of us don’t board their train on route to Cata.
We all had a time we wanted to go back to. The question is how many players are there going to be, and for how long.
Players get bored if they’re doing the exact same thing and the exact same content over and over. People will get bored of ICC. People will get bored of the solved meta. Etc etc. Private servers still exist, especially for Wrath, and they tend to repeatedly progress. It’s what keeps players on the treadmill and interested.
This was said for TBC as well, you know. And it proved demonstrably false - Classic servers are all but dead, and while SoM has some following, it’s tiny compared to TBC. It doesn’t matter what era of the game it is.
Not only that but it was drafted to have a Nerubian raid, and it ended up scrapped. Having him being a 5 man boss was pretty disappointing, and worse than that was having him back as last boss of ToC.
Hated the introduction of phasing and really dislike that flying dragon dungeon. Just wasn’t fun.
I also felt some of the zones were just really boring or not well put together.
The nostalgia appeal for Wrath is huge. There are a lot of “Wrath babies” which include (for me) players who started late in TBC too + players who just prefer this expansion.
I don’t think it’ll be as huge as Classic release but i expect it to be great.
The nostalgia appeal for Classic and TBC was massive as well. My point is that once we’ve been in it for a year, it’s going to lose that appeal - but that may return in several years. There’s probably going to be a lot of people who never intended to play past Wrath going into Cata because they want to keep playing their characters.
I myself never intended to go past TBC, but now I’m excited for Wrath.
It’s not lazy, no one saw classic naxx before the re-release, it was a basically unused raid.
I’m personally fine with wrath naxx, I’ve never even heard of speculation of an Azjol-nerub raid. To be frank it sounds significantly less intresting than naxx
Also why even bring up naxx if we’re talking about anub anyways? Lol
I never liked him was a pretty bad yes-man character to arthas anyways.