Oh no!
It’s this guy again!
This is all he has to say!
The horde is bad! The Alliance is good! That is all!
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No, it’s true.
If you’d delightfully go on the home page of ‘General Discussion’ and scroll about two pages, there will be about several Alliance-made threads complaining about the Horde, and only one Horde thread complaining - Which is probably about being humiliated as another one of their Warchiefs goes bye-bye.
Yeah, mostly because the Alliance playerbase insists on blaming the Horde playerbase for what the developers choose to do, and also to ignore the fact the Horde ALSO gets screwed by the same developers. It’s very frustrating to watch people completely ignore that in favor of their own bias.
Also? And I’m not sure what this is about, but when I play my Alliance alts I’m genuinely puzzled by how different it is. Somehow, Alliance trade chat manages to be MORE garbage than Horde, which is a feat of massive proportion given how garbage Horde chat is.
I’ve also never seen the sort of nonsense in LFD that I see Alliance-side when I’m playing Horde. Not in the proportions anyway.
So yeah, it’s anecdotal, not data, and purely my own subjective experience, but I’ve actually been startled by how different it is. It is what it is,
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On the bright side Baine appears to be the next cab off that particular rank and Alliance will shed more tears for him than the Horde will.
Somehow I think there will be more salt from the Horde if they DON’T follow the revolving door habit the writers have developed and instead let him live. I mean they’ve killed off or otherwise neutered the leaders many liked and left us with one we can’t decide is a traitor or a moron.
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Newp. We’re getting a council of all the race leaders from now on. Thank Og for that.
I think it would be cool if there were leaders on both sides that were friends and had their own side things going on. Like, not Baine and Anduin sharing a pint in SW keep type of deal but more of the Khadgar-esque type stuff.
In WoD, if you’re Horde and doing the legendary ring questline, Jaina confronts him on the way to his tower and tells him she doesn’t approve of him working with the horde.
He basically tells her to buzz off and that he does what he wants as long as its for the good of the planet.
So like, Mathias Shaw doing roguey stuff with Lilian Voss.
Yeah that stuff is great, but with less dreadlord going on. The rivalry between the factions needs a healthy dose of humour to flush out the pipes of this expansion’s faction war.
I don’t want to see emotional bollocks from the leaders, like… ever. They shouldn’t be leaders if their ducks aren’t in a row. Now if you were to find a way to build a friendly rivalry with as you say, Shaw and Voss, or Flynn and someone, I think that would be a great idea. But not the leaders. They are the face, voice and heart of their own faction, and nobody else’s.
Actually… horde don’t really have an equivalent for Flynn do they? Most characters seem to be dead or have had their sense of humour shot off in the war. Maybe there’s someone else in the rogue class hall they could mould into a good Flynn foil. He was in my opinion, the best new character for Alliance this time around.
Why are some people so tribal they see things so strongly filtered?
To quote Mortis:
And this thread just proves it.
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It’s so far been confirmed that the Horde will no longer have a Warchief & be run as a council - They would only have a Warchief if the situation called for it.
This made many Alliance unhappy and was considered ‘A bad move.’
They wanted their Revenge & most of the complaining /eyeroll threads want unrealistic outcomes to occur towards the Horde. Like
- All their cities being nuked / decimated.
- ALL of Silvermoon in ruins again, along with the Sunwell corrupted.
- A many of the Horde races becoming ‘Endangered’ / large majority wiped out like the Nightelves etc.
I can understand wanting to apply a heavy blow to the Horde so it feels like there’s been evened damage – Even if it’s only somewhat, but they really go for the overkill. lol
It’s about split, imo. There are very fine people on both sides.
I know and it’s unfortunate those terms have been made meaningless.
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Yeah I know but they’ve built Baine up while the other races still don’t have a leader so that council is going to be a bit lop sided for a while.
There are too many people who need to be playing a single player game. There can never be the kind of catastrophic resolution that some players want when a conflict is brought to an end. And anything that doesn’t give them the closure they feel they need is just more proof of bias to them. And then its off to the forums…
At the time being, I feel there’s more chances of the factions being dissolved, or even reset (Into 2 developed & established different set faction race combos) than that.
If they did go down the lane of two separate factions I’d imagine it would be ‘Shadow VS Light’ with mild conflicts and considerations within such as Life VS Death / Order VS Chaos for the greater good etc.
If they have another faction conflict (Where say a Warchief like Baine may actually be needed) of Horde VS Alliance, I pray its Tyrande lashing out for her enacted revenge, because if it’s Horde again, I’m straight up uninstalling the game. Because at this point it just feels like a silly circle of:
- Horde do bad .
- Warchief go bye.
- Alliance smack Horde on wrist “Bad Dog. No do again.”
I’d like to see development in allegiances / Alliances kept & given for timeframes, even the Order Halls to come back in various events or quests – Make it feel like a living, evolving thriving world.
Make it feel, like an MMORPG.
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LMAO no. So very no. You take a tiny sample of a the last few days and think that’s enough for that kind of blanket statement? No my dude. No, no, no. It just doesn’t work that way.
They both are equally butthurt about everything. Simple as that. Only the truly biased think otherwise. Now if you’re just going to focus on particular expansion biases that Blizz have, sure. You could say that Blizz leans towards certain factions. It doesn’t help that all the devs are rumored to only play horde. Especially Ion who’s in charge of it all. So if anything Horde will always get more Dev attention in the long term which consequently make more alliance butthurt. But with good reason.
Then there’s the separate issue of the population imbalance of higher skilled players which objectively give horde the advantage for pvp and raiding which the feeds the self fulfilling prophecy of more players gravitating towards the better performing faction etc.
Blizz are the shooting themselves in the foot on this. And I suspect they’ve finally realised their mistake since they’re rumored to combine alliance and horde in 9.0. Ironically, mostly the horde players will have themselves to blame for this.
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my guess? cause they’re the opposite faction to the alliance.
The statistics literally state otherwise.
Okay in the pass 24 hours, lets see:
- There’s been atleast 5 ‘High Elf’ threads, and within them they’re pro-Alliance and loathe & complain at the Horde - Due to the truthful argument that High Elves are literally Blood Elves, and ‘Blood Elves’ is merely a namesake.
- There’s been MULTIPLE threads created complaining about Allied races on the Alliance side. Horde gets a brand new race and Alliance gets Point & case.
- As for the leagues and leagues of Alliance threads complaining how they want Horde to be punished more or ‘How evil’ they are etc, the most recent one being: The Horde will never change without punishments
- Anything Horde related without complaining - Merely a suggestion to make things better or resolution for the playerbase gets ravaged by leagues of Alliance players preaching how ‘Disgusting / Greedy / Gluttony’ of them it is to request such. Even (Especially) if it’s cosmetic.
I was also merely talking about most recent events, not as a whole. In terms of that I’d say
Is the one true statement.
Alliance have had the ‘Bonus PVP Box’ for quite awhile, which gives them the upper starting hand for ‘better performing faction’. There was mass threads imposed towards this in outrage when the Azshara raid went live.
I don’t see in any shape or form how that’s the Horde players fault. That would be a decision made by Blizzard not them. If large amounts of players could make such decisions the whole ‘Hong Kong’ issue would had been resolved quite awhile ago.
Bingo my green-greedy-deathly little friend, you have hit the nail right on the head of the ghoul.
This guy gets it.
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That’s why people should just take Ion’s advice, if you want something, the Horde is waiting for you.
I don’t blame the players, I blame the devs, if they don’t give a crap about a faction, I’m not paying Blizzard to play the crap faction that gets fat humans as the featured Alliance expansion race. That’s so behind schedule they hold up Zandalari being introduced for the Horde. And then these same Kul Tirans are the least played race in the game. What a waste of time, Alliance would’ve been happier with the low poly Vrykul model that this crud.
I mean how many times do you have to have it slammed into your face until you realize they don’t give a flying F about Alliance content.
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Too much nope on this to disect. A tiny sample does not a trend make. Simple as that. Only my statements point to the true endemic issues.
Sunday bait targeted, consumed.
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I just feel like the horde player base and the devs all live in a echo chamber. Prime example, allied races. How many alliance players have to say we’re getting screwed in the allied race department before the devs actually listen? How many post have you seen this week complaining about allied races from the alliance? Now compare that to the horde. From the hordes point of view we’re petty, and in the mean time the devs are basically creating world of hordecraft.