Why is the dungeon community just so hostile?

Lol or square jumping. Jump over the dude in the middle of the square until he notices, then freeze in place! The true WoW meta.

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I have done over 10k M+ keys since the release of M+ in Legion (it’s basically all I do in this game, and my sense of joy gearing a character and then doing it all over again with another character).

I have never seen it this bad before. The amount of mouthy twits I’ve come across in dungeons this season has been impressively horrible.

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It’s pretty much what happens when you put different crowds that have different goals in the same content. Many people see leveling only as a speedrun and aren’t challenged much by it so they’ll speedrun it to make it more fun and tolerable.

They really need for me to add more diversity to leveling. Add raids like in remix, add island expeditions, Torghast, nzoth visions back if people want to do those. And don’t make speedrunning dungeons much better than other content.

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Why is MCS so strong in dps

I got kicked from a LFG dungeon a couple weeks ago cause I was pinging where to go in Dawnbreaker… to what was a clearly clueless group. It’s whatever, though, I’m sure they struggled bussed their way through it and probably then came to the forums to whine that it is the worst dungeon in the history of dungeons. LOL.

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Follower dungeons and quests are an option, but it seems that you prefer the one option you don’t enjoy…

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These same people probably speed run through BG3 and missed the whole story.

OP is 100% right. I ran 6 dungeons in LFD before I stopped playing this expansion. Every single run the tank didn’t stop and would pull everything. The healer could only throw hots. DPS couldn’t settle into a rotation. It was just running to keep up. 2 of the runs were the brewery and both times were wipe fests because the tank wouldn’t stop.

M+ is the reason this is happening. You have to beat the clock so everyone thinks you have to zoom.

Why are you even playing an MMO?

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To me I don’t think they’re any more hostile than before. In fact, it’s like we’re all afraid to speak. I never say anything but who can type when we’re going like we lose something if we’re taking too long. I just go with it.

I do think I see vote kick option in almost every run I do. But I’m a bad judge since I’ve done less and less group activity the longer I play. Tanks seem to act like the rest of the group is chasing them or something. Healers have removed their resurrection spells from their bars. And dps will take lead the first slow down the tank takes. It’s like we’re all playing together out of force or something.

I’m sure (I hope) its different if you don’t pug. Hostile I wouldn’t say but impatience is clearly at play.

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I got kicked a few weeks ago from Dawnbreaker, because my toon got stuck in the air ship. It took a min to get out, but the group booted me anyways.

Yes you do because the scaling sometimes can be so wonky. I would say normal dungeons while levelling are harder then heroics and sometimes they can require a lot of healing.

True, There prob are people out there who do that dumb stuff. I just never see them really I guess. I see toxic people in PvP all the time. but I just /ignore and never see them again. Simple as that.

I blame folks wearing phony gold and diamond watches. Did you know it’s called trumpery?

ht tps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trumpery

1- worthless nonsense

b- trivial or useless articles

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I can count the number of times I’ve been kicked from a dungeon on one hand, lol. So I don’t know that it’s as bad as everyone says it is. however, I have noticed an increase in verbal toxicity in the PVE crowd this expansion.

I quit PVPing because literally every single Solo Shuffle or BG has 1-4 people slinging profane insults at everyone. Every. Single. Time.

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Nothing new.

That wasn’t my experience back in Wrath and it certainly wasn’t the case when Cata launched. I left Cata midway through that expansion and I didn’t see this when I came back to MoP midway through the expansion. I then took a significant break from WoW skipping over WoD and Legion completely. It was only upon my return to BfA midway through the expansion that I noticed this behavior and it was indeed new to me.

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I have been kicked for not knowing the dungeons. I didn’t care just made me go learn it on youtube. ftw

Don’t you think having to experience the game on youtube instead of the actual fricking game is a huge fail? How sad is that.

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Its the m+ crowd. They have leaked into other dungeon content. Its why i just do my dungeon weekly in follower dungeons. Leave the toxic children to their own toxicity wondering why queues are 17mins.

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Players like Merpish view the game through their WoW goggles.

I’ve been playing since 04 pretty much non-stop sub since then. The game has gotten so sweaty since they added in M+.

This single system has turned WoW into one of the most toxic live-service games on the market.

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Its wild… almost like putting a timer on something and punishing people for not meeting it is a bad design for social games.

Timers should be for solo content or leaderboards that have no effect on actual gearing.

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