It wouldn’t be boring to you if the packs were harder and players had to CC and follow mechanics.
Way back in the day, in dungeons it happened all the time, it’s not new. Maybe you were lucky but we (friends and I) were raiders, we were guildmates not to mention full adults. It broke us eventually so if you give someone, anyone a computer and online games, it’s a free pass for verbal abuse, downright snotty attitudes and me myself and I syndrome that we encounter pretty regularly on most online games. We gave up guilds and, raids and dungeons and we all solo most things apart from grouping for certain things. I help out strangers a lot I don’t mind, even horde. Everything else can kiss my buttcheeks, the hostility they can keep it 
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I figured once you get on the big bridge, the AI turns it over to the player to follow the ghosts. I was totally confused on that one and had to bring up a youtube video and keep pausing it so I could get on the correct path. I only did that one once, not too eager to do it again.
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I dearly hope you don’t apply that approach to your love life.
I’ve grown tired of the tanks that pull three rooms, and then can’t hold threat on the forty mobs they pulled.
The Dawnbreaker continues to be a nightmare to navigate. Either the group knows where to go, or they don’t. I’ve had group members get stranded on one end of the map, while the rest of the group is fighting on the other. Some go straight for the second boss, others don’t.
I’ve been playing Cata classic Ally on Pagle, and my experience has been the exact opposite.
Ive done numerous dungeons, heroic dungeons, ZA/ZG, leveling dungeons, etc. and can honestly say that ive only seen one or two vote kicks, both being for DC, in the past six weeks.
Others milage may vary, but you may have a better experience in other wow versions.
Cheers!
Fiber won’t help them, they are beyond that. Just ignore them. If there is anything this thread has done it is show who some of the problem people are.
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Classic WoW is played by current players who developed the speed running habit in retail M+. When those dungeons were actually played as retail (i.e., a long time ago), the go go approach was far less common.
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Most players want to.
Sure. If that’s what folks were to say, then sure.
But that’s not what folks are saying in these threads.
If all one wanted to do was to advocate for folks to go slower, then sure. You’d still get pushback and you’d have a dialogue about that and discuss pros and cons. Regardless of whether one were to convince someone else or not, that’s the absolute least that would be required of one.
Person A states their arguments and argues in good faith, not going into insults, normative language, assumptions or more … and person B responds to it. But… that’s not what happens. Even the title of this thread is “Why is ‘X’s environment’ so hostile?” (rewritten to make it more applicable in a neutral “Person A, Person B, Argument X”-model). So… yeah.
You can say that these threads are just “some folks want to go fast, and some do not” but… that’s not the purpose of the thread at all. If it were, then the title of would be something entirely different. And folks wouldn’t resort to calling folks apologists or other nonsense for calling out bad faith arguments.
No it wasn’t. It was different, because then you had folks who just wanted to kill bosses who got bored of waiting for buffs. Folks on these forums simply redefined “Wanting to go at the speed that is common” as a “Go Go Go”-mentality, when that’s just a severe mischaracterization of it.
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It’s why I stopped tanking after my group of friends quit back in Cata. Any time I tank for a random group I’m either too slow or too fast or someone else is pulling and not paying attention and dies. I just kind of avoid dungeons altogether now. I’m grateful for solo content like delves.
Oh, you’ve never seen the PVP community. Those people are BRUTUAL. The dungeon people are chill compared to the PVP community. But I love them both. XOXO 
but the tanks cant learn because people like you kick them for not knowing what to do
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Running things quicker has been part of WoW for a long time. I remember in WotLK where groups would just zerg through dungeons and skip bosses if they could just to min/max xp per hour.
Tanks are always the first to be blamed in these threads. It is funny. Go make a tank and pull 1 pack at a time. See how long before you’re voted kicked without warning, or your dps and healer start pulling for you. If you’re going to tank in todays climate, you need thick skin and a MOVE MOVE MOVE mentality.
Been playing this game since 2005 and it’s in most part I avoid LFG all together anymore. Not worth the drama or headache. I enjoy the game at my pace and do these with friends that are in the same mindset as me.
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YES! Those were the days I adored. Before LFG and LFD automation when you had to actually be nice to people if you ever wanted to be invited back to a 5 man PUG. When guilds were massive with 30 or 40 people on at once. When your guild helped mentor guildies in how to play a dungeon. When you were judged on how you used your skills to support the whole team instead of racing the DPS meter and screaming at heals and the tank after you selfishly and foolishly pull aggro.
I joined WOW for raiding MC and because it was a very supporting and outgoing community. I always wanted to be a great tank or healer and looked up to them from my Mage toon. Then LFG and LFD hit and respect for fellow players became irrelevant. Today I’ve learned the hard lesson to avoid all group activities, especially dungeons, and me gear usually sucks. But I do show great and open appreciation for those who randomly act with kindness and respect like it used to be, if only to encourage those days again when I started 24 years ago.
I miss my WOW.
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TBH there’s not a shortage of healers. But most of us healers are just sick of the gung ho tanks that think they need to win a race. Im personally tired of chasing tanks around a dungeon. So I only run with mostly my guild members
During DF Blizzard release a poll of what people roughly engage with in the game.
It isn’t entirely up to date anymore but it is close enough that we can reasonably draw some conclusions from it, and this data was backed up with logs from RaiderIO back when this poll was made:
- Roughly 40-50% of the player base across all versions of the game engage in endgame PvE. With the inclusion of Delves, my personal guess is that the number is going to rise up to be between 50-65%, so take your pick of these numbers.
- When classic released lots and lots of folks established a narrative that “Classic is so much better because it takes so much longer to do stuff” when… Ragnaros was dead within a week of Classic opening, and Blackrock Lair was cleared in… under 2 hours IIRC? Point is this, even in Classic, people play the game to go as fast as possible.
- Just by queuing for LFD in-game. Folks don’t go slowly and folks don’t want to. Literally your thread exists because you experienced this and thought “Hey, this is a problem” and I’m stating it ain’t … folks are just doing what we as players have ALWAYS been doing since Vanilla.
So those are the “folks” I’m referring to. Which… effectively means everyone except for people who just play the game to level characters, transmog hunt, do the storyline and then wait for other patches, and so on. When I say “folks” I mean “effectively everyone who plays the game and engages in endgame PvE content.” As we see the same thing happening in Delves as well - I’m not particularly good at Delves so I haven’t figured out how folks are completing them as insanely quickly as folks are but…
There you go.
I don’t run LFDs, so I have no idea how you would ever encounter me. But yes, I’m referring to you as a troll since everything you have said eludes towards it … and you openly admitted to changing forum characters meaning that there’s a good likelihood I probably have you on my ignore or muted list, judging by how you are behaving in this thread.
I don’t think I agree with you that “modern gamers” care as much about intellectual honesty and honest discourse than what I do but… I can’t say I care either way?
You seem to think these things are a negative and I don’t so, eh?
i dont kick tanks. I do exactly how they want to pull and delete mobs. If it times it times, if it doesnt, stuff happens go next. Not really up to me to teach tanks when ppl like you are resistant to self learn.
My dog resisted to self learn. So I led him
The whole country if not the entire world has gotten more toxic. Of course it’s going to spill out into our reality escape matrixes!
Fear not! The world will probably maybe might end soonish, and we will all be dead! 
In the meantime However, it has been my experience most the people in my LFG/LFR groups were all just normal people, and most the toxic ones were the ones that got the boot for being toxic. After all anyone who feels the need to really get toxic at another player for making a mistake, or whatever, in a game obviously has some inadequacies at being a well adjusted human.
In the meantime y’all can be toxic to me instead of each other. I get off on it for I am NOT a well adjusted human being myself. 