You’re forgiven.
But I’m actually talking about many of the posts made here on the forums, and on Reddit, and other places in the raiding community.
Somewhere there is a message board where janitors argue that cleaning a public toilet to a brilliant sheen is hard and others are saying that they just dont have the time or desire to put that much into it. …and THAT conversation is more important than THIS one.
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But you’re not a raider. By you’re own argument, you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
This isn’t my main.
Good try, though!
Oh, I’m sure it’s not. You’re obviously on Method and just sharing your wisdom with peons, right? Actual hardcore raiders don’t come here and preach from their ivory towers. They’re busy.
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This is actually one of the points I made earlier (you’re learning!); that is, the really elite players aren’t the jerks they are often made out to be… at least, to people at the bottom of the ladder.
Also, you seem to be taking this rather personally. No one is picking on you; let it go.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with throwing around phrases like “striving for excellence”.
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Because I’m not getting paid to make it a career, so I don’t care. Neither is 98% of the players in the game.
And yet players who “strive to be good” are also the ones who talk down to casuals.
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Oh no, many of them are jerks. I’ve played with them. It’s part of how they get that good. Type A personalities tend to rub people the wrong way. I’m only saying people playing at lower levels aren’t even on their radar.
Except most of the time the “elitist” referenced in GD posts are purely hypothetical. There are quite a few frequent mythic raiding posters that do not flaunt it around like GD wants people to believe.
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I see them getting called out for it as well. There’s a decent counter community here still.
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I see more false labeling than anything. People don’t know what really constitutes an elitist
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It’s all straight tribalism.
Those who try to succeed get knocked as “try-hards” and “elitist” by those who are more casual. Just look at all the complaint’s about Raider IO, M+ in general, MDI Fotm, etc.
Those who are more casual get mocked by those who want to succeed as being “filthy casuals” and “terribads”. Look at how many people want to remove LFR for welfare epics, titan/warforging. Giving players crud for not doing M10+ or heroic raids and not having an ilvl at minimum 430+ by this point.
Each group will always feel like the victim. I have played expansions as hardcore, I have played them as casual, you notice complaints against the group you are currently in than the one you aren’t. It happens in all things in life where there are different sub-cultures within an overarching culture.
Edit: The same thing is happening right now for those who are excited about Classic vs those who are not.
It’s not necessarily that people on the top are elitist - some are, some aren’t, but it’s not a general rule that they will be.
What I see in so many threads ( including this one), is that people at the bottom need those at the top to be elitist. They need them to all be jerks… because if they are, then there is one less reason to put in the work to climb.
Again, if you can’t have… hate.
I don’t need less reasons to climb.
You have all the reasons you need?
Bottom line. Ones persons “striving for excellence” at playing WoW can make another person spit out a drink of water in a real life “guffaw”. While the “striver” cannot understand that persons amusement at the thought beyond “you must suck”.
Most people fall in the middle of not giving a rip one way or the other.
Or toxic. The words are being so overused they have absolutely no meaning. Yes there are elitists. Yes some people are toxic. When it is being thrown out left right and center it draws attention away from actual elitists and actual toxic people that we should all be against.
/hops off soapbox
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Yeah, I only need the one. Which is the following: Pretty much the main reason is I don’t see a point in it when the servers will shut off and progress will reset next expac.
I don’t find it interesting to compete in a MMO. MMO PvP is incredibly boring, which is why it doesn’t really reach FPS levels as an esport, and Blizzard hasn’t put out an interesting and compelling raid tier all expac.
Whomever is at the top doesn’t affect me if they never come and tell me about it. I don’t care about streamers. I don’t care about pushing M+s or envying someone else’s gear.
I’m perfectly happy to do the bare minimum for the next year, grab the AOTC mount right before the next expac drops, and not make this a second job. Anything in Mythic that I want this expac will still be there in a few more years.
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Some folks only know how to work with wide generalizations and it’s pretty damaging.