That was the point of stat templates last xpac though, it much reduced the new player/veteran stat gap
I enjoyed pvp templates, especially for my new toons
You still had progression mind you, but outplaying opponents and still losing due to strong stat deficiency sucks
You don’t even do bgs and yet you’re in here telling others how gearing should work.in PvP. If anyone has wasted anyone’s time here it’s you
I didn’t even mention how gearing through BGs is basically pointless and given how much time you’d waste for RNG upgrades you’d be better off doing almost anything else.
The problem with templates was down to the fact that you couldn’t play your toon or kit it out the way you wanted to. You were forced to play how the template told you to play. At least that’s what most PvP players I’ve spoken to have said.
Honestly, I still don’t understand why having PvP vendors and honor gear is such a bad thing… I also don’t get why having something like resilience or PvP power stats or the WoD scaling system are such bad things… The only downside was the barrier to entry for people who have done other content (M+ and raids) but have done literally ZERO PvP. To those I say… It’s an RPG… Why wouldn’t you have to progress in content that you haven’t participated in?
The best part about this is if you try to flip it the other way and ask why PvP gear can’t be BiS in PvE you’ll have people jumping up and down screaming till they are blue in the face that they should never be forced into playing PvP.
I’m a PvE player and I’ve already grumbled to my friends about stupid conflict and stupid strife… 
Thank god I don’t play classes that use blood of the enemy…
Case in point are those two essences 
BoTE doesn’t seem too bad, but I’m probably biased with the Alliance honor bonus and all that. C&S I would say should never be a BiS for PvE due to it being Rated PvP (just like how I’d say CLF or Iris should never be BiS for PvP). It’s a bummer though that we have honor talents just sitting there taunting us with augments to our specs we can only ever have in a limited capacity outside of WM/PvP/C&S.
Quick question are your current talents/essences (on the armory) for prot your usual choices when doing bgs/wpvp? I find myself doing ok most of the time, but when faced with dks (bdks mainly), balance/resto druids, and priests, they just never seem to want to die. Usually end suffering from magic dot rot and their mobility in the case of the latter two.
Essences I’ll usually use anima in the main slot because of that nice heal it does and then instead of lucid dreams I’ll use the essence from eternal palace. I found it helps me last longer, as for spell damage I’ll use blessing of spellwarding it’s always nice to see a greater pyro heading my way and I pop that and render it useless. Also I use the talent that buffs consencrstion and turns it into a snare and that helps will melee.
EDIT: Normally ill.pvp as holy but I sometimes PvP as prot too
If PvP was made fair then those who raid mythic just to farm gear and stomp randoms will complain that they can’t outmuscle skilled pvpers.
What I am saying finally some PvP balance changes will be incoming
Yeah I use anima, dynamo, and vop. As for spellwarding, I just can’t bring myself to give up the mobility double pony gives (along with the knockback talent). As for the consecrate talent, I’ll look into that. However I find myself usually always on the move. I wonder if ripple in space could help, which I’ll be getting rank 4 today/tomorrow if I do my last cta timegate.
Just get annoyed when unbound drops off and then stuff hits the fan.
Use the consencrate pvp talent thatll help you with snares when yiu throw it down. Imo spellwarding is very much worth it. I can’t tell you how many times I had two rows of dots on me and popped that just saw nothing but immune lol so satisfying
what difference does it make if someone is 300 or 350 or 400 against a 445 ? This is entry level PvP content, if anything it is the 445 who should be questioned why they are going in there and at this stage, even essences aren’t a plausible explanation.
145, 95 and 45 ilevel difference respectively. Not to mention your first ilevel 202 is a whooping 243 ilevel difference.
If you want to go ask why they are in random bgs go ahead!
And they will all be killed in a one on one battle with the 445 - it makes no difference. Heck OP thinks you need to be 415 in there.
You see no difference in a team environment what your average team ilevel means?
I wonder why the OP thinks that…
Hmm, I’ll swap to bos then and then shift to trying to add movement speed increases elsewhere. And is it favorable to use Unbreakable spirit over hand, for the shorter spellwarding cd?
If you want to be fussy about what your team mates gear is, rated BGs is waiting for you or go in with a party.
Going in with a party increases the chances you fight a premade.
Good luck finding anyone at all for rated BGs on the alliance.
When we do find, after hours of searching, we get matched against a 2200 horde team.
Then queue mercenary mode.