Why is Blizz driving away current customers?

[Charle-deviate-delight]

So why reroll on high pop servers everytime?

How has this guy not been forum banned yet?

Am I breaking a rule ?

Except the dude above you is switching realm

I don’t mind discussing, my point is that the best thing you can do right now IS rerolling. The more you invest on your character from your full server the more you’ll regret not rerolling before.

Yes, some people will reroll. Others will not. Many will quit entirely instead. This is bad for the game as a whole. I’m not sure how this is complicated for you to understand?

I understand

[Silvanthra-doomhammer (Silvanthra)]

This is very true. I don’t want to reroll, but I will keep playing. Most people may not be as dedicated as I am.

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

Having to drive 15 miles to another gym is not analogous to clicking a different server from a list on your computer screen, which is then remembered and is the default when you start the game the next time. In your example that gym is still 15 miles out of the way, 30 miles round trip, and you would have to bear that burden each time you want to go.

It’s not as dramatic as you’re making it out to be. And as another poster said, playing on a different server today doesn’t mean people have to delete their Herod toons. They will still be there in the future if you must play on Herod.

What on earth are you talking about? I dont play on Herod.

And who rolls characters and spends the time leveling them up with no intention of playing them? Sounds like a colossal waste of time to me.

[Herky-benediction]

Quite a few of us care. Hell, I care and I am not on one of the multi-hour queue servers. It just pisses me off to no extent to see people like you handwaving what many value as community and guild fabric.

I’m not dismissing community at all by saying that. I’m saying if your community is as strong as you think it is, why can’t you talk to each other? Do you guys not have phones? I had to tell the irl friends I’ve been gaming for years with that based on how the queues were going I would not be able to play on Herod for weeks if not longer. I told the group’s I played with I was making a character on benediction so I could play instead of staring at a queue. I found a good guild of people who have day jobs and play at night. And then friends from Herod come to Benediction so they could stop staring at queues. Your community is as strong as you make it. If your community is willing to cast you aside because you cant remote in and queue over lunch or whatever, how strong is your community?

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

I’m not dismissing community at all by saying that. I’m saying if your community is as strong as you think it is, why can’t you talk to each other? Do you guys not have phones?

flag as trolling and move on, folks.

[Herky-benediction]

An accusation of trolling means you have no other response. I promise you will know when I’m trolling you, and this isn’t it.

[Charle-deviate-delight]

Having to drive 15 miles to another gym is not analogous to clicking a different server from a list on your computer screen, which is then remembered and is the default when you start the game the next time. In your example that gym is still 15 miles out of the way, 30 miles round trip, and you would have to bear that burden each time you want to go.

It’s not as dramatic as you’re making it out to be. And as another poster said, playing on a different server today doesn’t mean people have to delete their Herod toons. They will still be there in the future if you must play on Herod.

What on earth are you talking about? I dont play on Herod.

And who rolls characters and spends the time leveling them up with no intention of playing them? Sounds like a colossal waste of time to me.

I wouldnt say a colossal waste of time when its max 8 hours of gameplay (if you’re not stubborn)

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

I wouldnt say a colossal waste of time when its max 8 hours of gameplay (if you’re not stubborn)

I don’t know about you, but as a working adult I cherish the hell out of a full 8+ hours of free time and prefer to use it productively.

[Herky-benediction]

So why do you stare at login queues when you could actually play the game?

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

You can play now just on a different Server

[Charle-deviate-delight]

I wouldnt say a colossal waste of time when its max 8 hours of gameplay (if you’re not stubborn)

I don’t know about you, but as a working adult I cherish the hell out of a full 8+ hours of free time and prefer to use it productively.

Yeah I cherish it too, thats why I refused to sit in a queue

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

So why do you stare at login queues when you could actually play the game?

As it has been explained roughly 4 dozen times throughout this thread, many of us don’t. We are upset on behalf of guildmates and friends who do not have the means to avoid the queues. I have access to my computer during the work day to avoid them so it isnt an issue for me personally.

But I care about my friends and guildmates, and it is upsetting to me that a large chunk of them are basically locked out from playing with us, when for many of them this guild was the only reason they resubscribed after over a decade.

Again, i can understand why for people without friends, this is a confusing concept.

[Silvanthra-doomhammer (Silvanthra)]

Or you know, what adults do. If I can’t play and there is a long queue I am probably going to turn it off and do something else.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

Edit: I’m on mobile with a poor internet connection. I intended to reply to a different post, but somehow replied to this one by mistake.

Ok. If you have put enough time into your character where rerolling is no longer appealing, you have been playing the game

If you literally can’t play because of queues, and have a lvl 6 toon, you can Reroll.

This is why people are suggesting to reroll.

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

Ok. If you have put enough time into your character where rerolling is no longer appealing, you have been playing the game

If you literally can’t play because of queues, and have a lvl 6 toon, you can Reroll.

This is why people are suggesting to reroll.

Might wanna give my comment another read, bub.

[Charle-deviate-delight]

Or you know, what adults do. If I can’t play and there is a long queue I am probably going to turn it off and do something else.

Good thing you can play now

So why do you stare at login queues when you could actually play the game?

As it has been explained roughly 4 dozen times throughout this thread, many of us don’t. We are upset on behalf of guildmates and friends who do not have the means to avoid the queues. I have access to my computer during the work day to avoid them so it isnt an issue for me personally.

But I care about my friends and guildmates, and it is upsetting to me that a large chunk of them are basically locked out from playing with us, when for many of them this guild was the only reason they resubscribed after over a decade.

Again, i can understand why for people without friends, this is a confusing concept.

Yeah keep throwing insults around and ask for “discussion”.

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

Yeah keep throwing insults around and ask for “discussion”.

Show me on the doll where the blood elf hurt you.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

You’re being too “literal” with my use of Herod to play the part of “server with a giant queue”.

Also, it’s a colossal waste of time to sit in 5 hour queues and complain on the forums, when you can play right now on a different server.

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

You’re being too “literal” with my use of Herod to play the part of “server with a giant queue”.

Also, it’s a colossal waste of time to sit in 5 hour queues and complain on the forums, when you can play right now on a different server.

Scroll up 5 comments and read what was written. You’re really not getting it, dude.

[Silvanthra-doomhammer (Silvanthra)]

Let me explain one last time to those that do not understand.

I am a member of a large, prominent guild on Whitemane. The guild is not moving. They are there to stay. There are over 100 members. I joined their discord and got to know them. Many of them do not have full time schedules and so can afford to queue for hours to get in or manage to get in during low pop times.

I enjoy the guild, I enjoy the people, I like what their plans are. I made a character with them on launch day. I experienced all the craziness with them. I helped them and they helped me. I spent hours on this character over the first several days because i was able to wait in queues then.

I can no longer wait in queues. I have not been able to play with them in days because of them.

This is what I am being asked so flippantly to give up. All those experiences and friendships.

I am most likely going to do so, but I want YOU to realize this is not easy, it is not preferred, and it is not ideal. It is bad. It is a sad outcome. It would go a long way if you people could at least acknowledge this.