Well, it gave me the illusion that those people actually think about how they reply to people. When I say it’s not the reality I don’t mean it’s not factually correct, I mean that it doesn’t play out that way. Nobody is getting fully decked out in Myth gear from the vault alone.
And most mythic raiders aren’t fully decked out of simply mythic raiding.
Like I said this goes both sides.
I’m totally fine if your point of view is that we should split both, but in a world where both content are in the same ecosystem this is fine.
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No, but the slots that M+ only players are missing are most likely filled with gear from the raid for mythic raiders and the ilvl disparity in those slots is alot bigger now.
most mythic raiding isnt hard either, and I got CE in Amirdrassil. The only difficulty is the logistics and being able to guarantee a 4-5 hour slot. it lends itself to catering towards a specific type of individual that’s more and more unrealistic for the vast majority of adults who are struggling to make ends meet.
The difficulty of raids is filter enough to restrict people from top tier gear, they don’t need to add obscene scheduling restraints as a 2nd filter from the very top.
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I’d say mythic raiding is hard when you’re in a top guild, otherwise you’re just following instructions and meeting dps checks to bosses that get nerfed over time.
The same is true for people that would only do mythic raid, your chances to be fully mythic track goes down as even in raids gear is rng even if there can be more drops. This is totally balanced.
This brings up an interesting point, but to get a full set of gear from raiding, you generally need at least 2/3s of the instance cleared. Until you get that far, you’re missing at least 1 slot in your vault loot pool.
Vs in M+ where you can just fail the timer in the same +10 over and over again to get a full set of myth gear with good RNG.
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I’d argue most of the loot that you end up equipping comes from the earlier bosses.
To the extent that you don’t have gear from the later bosses, sure.
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I’m not the world’s most social person, and on raid nights when there are 20 voices competing to be heard I just kinda clam up. In 5 man content I get to just hang out with my friends and joke and have fun.
That said, I don’t hate raiding either, I just prefer M+.
no - raid is master loot, m+ is personal loot. you can 100% gear someone faster that only raids that you can someone that only m+s
I think the vault is its own problem, and if you want to pick faults with lack of parity in one direction then expect the same to be thrown back at you. M+ and raid gearing are not equal, and despite it skewing one way they both also have their own individual pros and cons.
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Your piece still has to drop even with “masterloot”.
You have higher chances to get a piece you need from your vault.
Especially when the opinion isn’t based on reality.
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The majority of mythic raiders also have families and kids.
If it’s not important to you that’s fine but don’t make excuses.
Yes, and I’m not saying gearing from raiding is perfect, but it isn’t capped like M+ is.
It’s not just that they’re not equal, the two game modes are incompatible, which is why they should be totally separated, just like how raiding & PvP are separated.
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These are such weird discussions because I don’t know anybody that raids in any serious way who does not also do mythic+ for gear. So its really "why increase the gap between people who exclusively do m+ and people that do both. IDK what the solution to that is, I dont know if there needs to be a solution to that. 
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You’re so not knowledgeable on this topic. ML doesn’t change the number of drops.
ML also isn’t in the game.
And how many of those people, if given the choice, would stop doing M+ if they no longer had to?
Probably almost all of them.
It’s a discussion because it’s required to do both in higher end.
Some raiders don’t want to do mplus and some mplus fans don’t want to raid.