Elfvis
I just had to throw a ![:heart:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/heart.png?v=6" ":heart:")
️ your way. Not because I agree with you, but because I applaud your healthy approach to this discussion. Seeing someone willing to admit they may be wrong but still wade into the thread and try to put forth ideas that may make things a bit better is great to see.
If more people behaved like this the Devs might not be so terrified to come to the forums.
It was 1% per 10 item levels.
They should make it easier for Alliance to keep up with Horde on gear.
Hey, guess what! New Alliance side quest to get weekly 370 gear. Looks like Blizzard is listening!
According to the bg statistics in the US alliance win 45% of bgs, horde with 55%. However during US primetime hours (3-9 pm central) it moves to 73% horde wins 27% alliance wins over last 3 weeks. You go to none primetime hours and it moves to alliance winning 50-60% and horde 40-50%. So it really depends on the time of day you play whether you feel like you always lose or not. Also on EU servers it is currently at 50% horde wins and 50% alliance wins over last 3 weeks.
This means if you were to play alliance at non primetime hours, get queues at 2-3 minutes as opposed to horde queues of 10-15 minutes, you could theoretically gear faster than horde as alliance. But if you play during primetime excursively 3-9 pm central time, just re-roll to horde.
Unforunately I think a majority of players play at primetime which is why people feel such a big imbalance.
For example, if during them 6 hours horde are winning roughly 3/4 games, it takes the next 18 hours of non primetime hours to bring their winrate back down to an average of 55%. Which just shows how many games are played over just them 6 hours of time (people getting off work/out of school.)
Then i would say that is a problem with the player base during those times. If the non prime time players are winning on alliance upwards of 60% on the same maps, then it it most likely a L2P issue.
Great, more welfare epics, this time it’s one sided. ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
Totally what the game needs more of.
At least gear matters so little it won’t really matter.
Yep, this.
I play both prime time and off periods, and it’s quite obvious the difference is gear. I can 1v1 Horde hunters off peak, and not in prime time, and hunter duels don’t have a ton of variation in skill.
Probably quality of players. I’ve played at all times and not noticed any difference.
yesterday i lost 9 bgs in a row on my b.e paladin
Until we get to see some real statistics most of this conversation is moot.
Person A: iLvl is a huge thing and alliance are “often” way under-geared (What is often? Is it a perception because the person looks hard occasionally at the data from a loss and comes up with “often” based on a small sample?)
Person B: Counterpoint to Person A, I have “seen” under-geared teams win against well-geared teams. (Is “seen” statistically meaningful? Was the under-geared team a premade? Did the under-geared team have heals while the other team did not? etc)
Person C: I win all the time as alliance - way better than your 2-10 losses you quote. (Is this person C a healer? Do they queue with a friend or two or in a premade mostly? etc)
Person D: I win lots because I queue at certain times of the day? (What times? Do others see similar win-loss ratio’s? Are more alliance or horde on at those times?)
These examples can go on indefinitely…
As an aside, does anyone know how to contact the site owner of http://wow-stats.com/index.html#contact The contact email for the person does not appear to be a valid email address.
Since Vanilla time I’ve played around 10k Bgs and have close to 500k Hk. All casual, keyboard player action. You will go through stretches of win/loss rates that will make you lose hair. Just gotta roll with it.
Ironically whenever gear vendors have been a thing alliance tend to dominate bgs
Ill take that trade off, i want vendors so bad!
Ya I am not paying over $300 to reroll to horde on all my toons.
And like most people, I play in prime time. That’s why it’s called prime time.
I am just moving on from WoW until the next expo it seems.
Someone bad at numbers would think that.
How exactly.
Players on alliance that win on off hours are winning on the same maps against horde.
Players on alliance that lose at prime time are losing on the same maps against horde.
In either case it is skill = winning (ofc class make up etc can play a small part in it)
Gear means very little, test for yourself sometime, numbers guy.
Ya we figured you wouldn’t understand.
It’s ok, not everyone is good at thinking.
If YOU are only 40-45% then I fear for the less-skilled Alliance players.
Only in the 40 mans. You can get more CP just spam queuing 10/15 mans