Agility can literally be trained.
And the whole trope that a large character is slow and cumbersome has no basis in reality. I know some extremely large guys that are also very, very agile. It’s all about the training you undertake.
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You didn’t though… you used idiotic logic and tried to push it as making sense. Nothing you said made any sense… I ain’t surprised, you couldn’t make a point last time this was discussed, you ain’t gonna make one now with the same terrible arguments.
The problem is not the stealth, its the agility…
A tauren druid, transforms into a cat… one of the most agile animals in nature…
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You mean that stat that comes on gear? Problem solved.
Also, Tauren already have Agility classes available to them.
By whose metric? Yours? Some here-to-fore unknown entity?
Any ‘problem’ that comes up with race-class combos gets solved easily by a little bit of individual backstory.
That Gnome Warrior that everyone says can’t hold the front line because they’re too light-weight? They cleverly installed weight plates in their armor and underclothes to increase effective mass and make themselves much harder to move. That Tauren Rogue that everyone knows can’t be stealthy or hide? Wisps of shadow magic along with careful patience and practiced movements means they go undetected even in the middle of the crowd, with people parting around a space and not bothering to wonder why.
Easy. As. Pie.
Yes, probably, but then your body type would reflect that.
As i have said it, im up for Tauren Rogues, if their body changes a lot from their current beefy muscular form.
Do you want Rogue Taurens ?, fine, slim and skinny Tauren for you. (Probably more similar to female taurens), or only allow female taurens to be Rogue…
Then force a skinny body type for all Rogues, because the current beefcakes are just as noticeable.
Again, no, body type has nothing to do with agility.
By all means, don’t just take my word for it. Take the words of two experts in the field.
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Tauren are not a hive-mind, they can chase individual pursuits. Plus, are you honestly saying there’s no potential in the day/night cycle for the exploration of Tauren Rogue and SPriest lore?
How uninventive.
You are comparing… a game of thrones battle between the mountain and oberyn martell… to stealth with a bull humanoid?
What does this have to do with stealth and when was the last time you saw a tauren do a backflip or roll… or hell, turn quickly?
… Monks?
you keep repeating yourself as if stealth is/was the bigger issue, and i have repeatedly said it that for me, its agility.
Its not a fact of being stealthy enough (which ill give you the shadow magic pass, because physically that 500kg cow would be detected a mile away)… but that your body have to somehow reflect your prowess. Even if at least a little.
You cant be Shaquile O’Neal, and then go to do professional ballet. Your movements and all would be erratic and clunky.
There… Picture Shaq O’Neal doing professional ballet, and you will see how stupid are Tauren Rogues. Thats my metric, common sence metric.
In game Humans, have perfect anatomy, which would allow them to do all kind of physical movements, they are not beefy as bodybuilders, i dont know what you are talking about or if you are trolling at this point.
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No, I am not comparing those two things. I am bringing attention to the experts words in that video, where he specifically says that the fictional portrayal of really large fighters is exactly that, fictional, because there are fighters out there that are not only extremely large and strong, but also terrifyingly agile, and the bloke saying that would know, he’s trained them. That’s his job.
Says who? If Shaq put the work in and developed the balance and technique necessary to do ballet, he absolutely could!
Also, again, Tauren have plenty of agility, hell the stat is right there in the character screen and it’s necessary for Monks and Hunters!
EDIT: Also, are you saying basketball doesn’t require AGILITY?!
“Where is he now?” - Taran Zhu
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist.)
Also, if you’re going to take a potshot and claim that it’s an ‘agility issue’ for Tauren Rogues, then Pandaren rogues would like to have a word as they are extremely large, with mostly fat, and they are also extremely agile. The MoP cinematic of Chen vs the Orc and the Human shows off the agility of a large fighter perfectly.
Sure, body types should exist for all classes, but they don’t because reasons… that’s why Mages are just as ripped as Warriors.
Many things in WOW could be improved from an RP perspective, but I wouldn’t expect things to change anytime soon.
To be clear, I will never play a Tauren anything. But Blizzard omitting a “slim” model for them shouldn’t preclude their class choices.
Although I suppose in DF someone could use the slimmer female model (Body 2?) and customise their gender from there if they were so inclined for an aesthetically accurate rogue.
I feel like you don’t understand what you’re even trying to argue for… you’re trying to tell me, that a 8 foot tall probably 600+ pound bull-humanoid is going to be “NIMBLE” and “AGILE” without being heard or seen. That’s what you are arguing for… even if we use Orcs as another example, 6’4-6’5 maybe 250-300 pounds… is a drastically smaller being and that’s pushing it. I couldn’t care less what some sword-fighting gurus tell me… there is a massive difference between sword fighting and stealth, being able to sneak around at that size… your comparison is awful.
Maybe each of these Tauren Rogues have magic so powerful that they rival Aegwynn herself… because they can just stealth through sheer magical talent somehow.
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Hunters somehow do it.
Tauren Monks also exist and perform moves and acrobatics that put some Rogues to shame.
Rogues in WOW don’t sneak, they stealth, which is magic based.
As I said previously, in other RPG’s Rogue classes are confined to the shadows, and utilising distractions in order to sneak.
WOW rogues don’t do this, which is why they can stealth in broad daylight and even shroud their whole party. As such, size is irrelevant.