Why haven't we nerfed fire yet?

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Never once did I imply that everyone should be broken or cheesy. I’d say asking for a 10% flat nerf to damage is asking for a lot. You seem pretty hateful towards fire, meanwhile boomkins are star surging for about the same damage as a 4 second gpyro and other classes have a way higher representation above 2k+ in 3s. Fire is currently in 6th place for representation above 2k followed by, oh look at that, arms warriors.

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No one takes you seriously, you’re so sure of what’s braindead and OP that you’ve never played and you actually can’t break 1600 on an absolutely braindead tank spec warrior. My offer still stands, I will boost, level a mage to 120 and gear it/transfer to your account… just so we can really prove if a simpleton can just faceroll to glad on an fire mage. And rating absolutely is relevant, because smarter and better players than you figure out how to deal with and outplay things. Fires instant dmg is too high and shimmering with gpy should be removed. That’s it.

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Abom hates mages man that’s his thing. If you guys are just realizing his bias against the class now you’re missing something. Of course his suggestions will be ludicrously out of line. It doesn’t mean fire still isn’t a major problem to fix. Fire is absolutely not the “most broken any spec has ever been” but it’s broken enough to warrant immediate blaster master nerfs, meteor nerfs and fireblast nerfs at a baseline and possibly gpyro as well by a slight %, maybe 30% down from 35?

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It actually is very small. 10% flat nerf then perhaps some talent direct nerfs where you can’t combo instant burst with Gpyro. If you nerfed Fire by 20% it would still be better than most specs. That is saying how broken they are mechanically and with traits.

Would like to see Shimmer removed and Gpyro reworked as well. That would be very reasonable balance.

Boomkins are overtuned but Fire is completely broken again this is the difference. You can’t put anything in the category of how busted and broken Fire is lol. Pretty sure anyone would rather fight Boomkins all day than broken gimmicks like Fire. Lets fix this!

If you nerfed Fire by 10% flat dmg, removed shimmer and changed their instant burst to not being able to be combined with instant dmg then it would be in line with other casters. Still very very strong.

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Rating has everything to do with it. Everyone stuck at 1400 like you sees everything in the game as broken. You sound like mute from world of roguecraft. WHAA MY CLASS IS BROKEN EVERYONE IS OVERPOWERED HOW AM I LOSING TO NOOBS.

I’ll take off the kid gloves for this. At your rating and level of play the problem is you being horrible at this game, having no awareness or any clue whats going on. The reality is you sit there and tunnel someone as hard as you possibly can, sweaty palms and all. Then you die and rage on forums. It HAS to be the game, it HAS to be the broken classes. It can’t possibly be you, needing to REALLY git gud and learn the basics. Demanding everyone get nerfed to oblivion with these childish tantrums and raving on forum won’t get you anywhere.

There is nothing to fix, game design is fine, class design is fine in its butchered and questionable state. We can play. Once warlocks/dks are brought up to par we’ll all get by with our classes held together by duct tape until major overhauls.

You on the other hand will always be a low rated rat player crying everything is broken. Seriously l2p the problem was always you and not the classes

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obligatory, that was Kishkumen. Mute was the rational warlock character in the sketch. :stuck_out_tongue: :nerd_face: (Just grinding your gears)

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What are you talking about. Do you know what a game tester is? They test games for bugs and things that can be abused or exploited. This is 100% a flawed game design and exploit that is being abused. You don’t need rating to be a game tester. You just need to report what is broken so it can be fixed so game play is better.

However we are still in Beta :rofl::rofl:

It baffles me how someone wants to talk about rating when it’s a game design issues with items/talents.

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Wait are you legit saying that people playing fire mage are exploiting!? They are simply playing the class optimally as designed… saying that is an exploit is frankly just insane.

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Wrong noob. He says “when I go into combat I know Mute’s looking down on me”
I just changed everything you thought you knew :joy:

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Fire’s problem isn’t game design - it’s tuning. If you made fireball exponentially more important, fireblast far less potent, meteor far less potent, combustion on the GCD and greater pyro slightly weaker you’d probably have a pretty mechanically sound spec. It’s just too strong. Low ratings aside, I rarely see anything in the 2500-2700 range that’s not fire mage/x/x/ or rsham/x/x. Those two classes are entirely defining the meta.

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I disagree with this. The only reason anything is even remotely playable is due to blizzard barely adhering to the foundation of what this game once was. I find it borderline unplayable with just countless nonsense prunes and bandaid fixes layered upon eachother. Every class I’ve leveled this expansion feels clunky and awkward compared to their previous iterations, be it resource managment, spell rotation, or just their actual way of affecting the classes around them. (Mage, Druid, Roguex3, Warrior, Priest.)

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Nah, they’re the same player. You can go watch the old roguecraft videos Mute is the caster :stuck_out_tongue: his name isn’t hidden in some of the clips.

That’s the Full Epics rogue that ‘Mute’ said, give me your account and I’ll show you what rogue is capable of. (or whatever the line was)

Don’t try to out nerd me on this i’m in their guild.

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An exploit is something that isn’t intended. Currently how Fire Mage is functioning is in fact unintended and a result of lack of better Beta testing in Beta for Azerite. I would consider season 1 still Beta and any titles earned an * next to it because it happened in Beta with numerous exploits and abused traits/talents.

I know it’s sad that this game wasn’t properly tested and rushed. However it is what it is. Yes playing Fire Mage is an exploit just like Rogue using shruiken toss was an exploit. Just like ToD stacking was an exploit. These are things that are all unintended and a result of design flaws and lack of proper testing.

So it is 100% logical and there is no other way to look at this situation. This is why we can’t have nice things. Don’t worry hopefully Beta will be over soon but the worries are 8.1 with new traits/items/trinkets. Looks like BFA is the Beta expansion where there will be exploits for it’s entirety.

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I know what it is in orginal roguecraft. I’m saying he adopted Mute as his go to name later on. You can see it from the video I linked from later on he made.

Even at the end it shows a picture of his rogue as uncle sam and it say uncle mute wants you.

I WILL OUTNERD YOU

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Yeah, I know what you’re referencing. That’s because Mute is the player. Like if I"m on my priest people still call me varick.

my stipulation here is that you quoted [quote=“Setback-illidan, post:46, topic:30272”]
You sound like mute from world of roguecraft. WHAA MY CLASS IS BROKEN EVERYONE IS OVERPOWERED HOW AM I LOSING TO NOOBS.
[/quote]

which was a line from the noob rogue who complained about attack power, and other classes receiving buffs. Not mute, the one who was saying ‘you were never any good at rogue’

That’s all. I’m not trying to dispute mutes identity.

it’s why i put :nerd_face: It was a pointless detail that I was just giving you grief for.

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No no its two people.

Him and his brother. He is the rogue, the one who says you were never any good at rogue is his brother on his warlock.

He made a youtube comment on his video not too long ago and left links to to originals on googledrive

omg. I looked at the credits and your right

But it says mute is voice of rogue. Kishkumen is his rogues name

Mute is the warlock char name, but voiced by Aaron

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You don’t know that. Are you a WoW dev?

Sh!t maybe he is… this window licker being a dev would actually explain a TON about the game recently…

That word you keep using. It doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Imbalanced spec design =/= exploit.

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Trust me, I know. You don’t know me and I don’t know you, but I really know.

Yeah, I know. But that’s my point. Mute is the Warlock in the sketch as in, the character. The rogue (played by mute / voiced) was ‘Kishkumen’

Genuinely anal pointless nerdy detail. Lol. And I know they’re brothers, Like I said. I’m in the guild on arthas.

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Yeah i’m really thankful for that cause I lost the files in a HD crash, and Roguecraft . com closed a while ago.

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Ya i replied with an edit on my previous post. You were right haha

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