which is why I went Alliance and never looked back.
That is definitely an Alliance perspective. Play horde side a while and read the lore, there is much more nuance. I just can’t wait for Sylvanis to burn down the new tree. 
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Because they are illegal immigrants.
Nah bruv there were even comments about irl things.
Sussy bakas the lot of you.
Keep yalls ignorance to the lore.
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See the Klingon.
Lok’tar ogar! Victory or death - it is these words that bind me to the Horde. For they are the most sacred and fundamental of truths to any warrior of the Horde.
I give my flesh and blood freely to the Warchief. I am the instrument of my Warchief’s desire. I am a weapon of my Warchief’s command.
From this moment until the end of days I live and die - FOR THE HORDE!
Just has a mental image of Thrall picking flowers somewhere in Mulgore and skipping through fields
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Thats a fun take to me.
I was a diehard alliance player until TBC, and for some reason (that I really dobt know how to explain) I kinda liked those orcs in Hellfire Peninsula so I gave horde a try.
Well back in the days you could not just race or faction change so I had to start all over again and while lvling horde pride grew on me (dont ask me why).
And I have been a orc since those days, i race change for maghar but still a orc.
Dont know why… but thays how it happened.
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They have, their aesthetic is still huts with spikes but inside those huts you see goblin technology all over the place. You see trains, zepplins and portals, via technology and mages from goblins and elves. Only Ogrimmar is a mix between orc and goblin stuff but Ogrimmar is still very mad max style.
I am still waiting for a goblin capital city because they are more “modern”. Also their culture as really slowed down with the “blood and thunder” aspect for some time now.
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lol no it is not. I am not a white dude, and when I go back to my country, there are people living in huts. They would 100% rather live in a fraking house with central heating and air, let me tell you that. Being in a hut is a means of survival, not something they actually want. Saying it is “part of the culture” is insulting. It is part of the poverty.
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The thing in cata was uncharacteristic for him, not the way he was in mist. Even the writers for that questline addmitted he didn’t truly understand Garrosh when he wrote that dishonorable thing and throwing a the dude off a cliff. He thought Garrosh was more like Varian but nope, Garrosh was always blood thristy, all the way back to BC and Wrath.
Dude was not okay.
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This isn’t just a Orgrimmar problem, the entire world is stuck in Cata with exception of some BFA world reflections, and those only further remove zones, instead of restoring them.
If you haven’t read a lore book outside of the game would you have known Silvermoon has been partially restored for at least a few years now? Or Gilneas or literally any other ramshackle abandoned hub/zone?
Midnight or Last Titan either one needs to focus on world building rather than tearing down, restoring the hubs and open world to its current timeline actual state with rebuilt major cities and restored zones.
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Oh, I agree with you. Another example is Gadgetzan in Tanarais is still a camp in the game. In the lore, via book and what not, and hearthstone, the camp is a full on huge mega city. The goblins made a mega city out there, lore wise, and each sector is controlled by a mafia boss.
The mean streets of Gadgetzan isn’t just an expansion for hearthstone, it literally is part of the lore canon via the books.
The game is stuck because of old code. A lot of things that are possible in the lore won’t show up in the game because of it.
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I’m sorry if I offended you or I said anything wrong. This is the source I looked at. It does say that huts are a part of many cultures, and in one case, that a certain hut had adequate heating.
https://www.archdaily.com/1012623/e-xploring-african-vernacular-huts-weaving-as-a-climatic-and-social-architecture
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I’m really hoping as Microsoft slowly gets folks in, and has them read up on Hearthstone/World of Warcraft lore, that maybe they’ll divert some R&D corporate resources and manpower into moving WoW off the WC3 Frankenstein’s monster we currently run on.
Same for me, but the opposite.
I always loved the Argent Dawn since I first met them as Horde, and I later started playing Alliance in Cataclysm.
I normally play the “villains” (In Star Wars games/mmos, I always play Imperial) but after playing Horde for years, it was fun to become the villains for my old favorite faction.
Basically, you can play Alliance, but you don’t have to be good.
Just like you can be Horde, but you don’t have to default to being evil.
Idk, I enjoy both factions, my Warband is evenly divided, two characters from each.
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Thrall’s horde is more to the real Orc culture before the Legion turned them into monsters. The “better horde” of yours was just the Legion’s foot army, manipulated by Gul’dan.
Thrall’s horde was mostly how they were like before Gul’dan came into the picture.
People keep forgetting about this with the horde. And no, AU warlords of Dreanor are not the same. Different manipulation, same problem with Garrosh being the mad man speaking evils and like before, a good chunk of the orcs was against it.
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Its nice how those things unfold.
Thx for sharing.
My warband is also even.
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Thunder Bluff is a thing. it’s way more pleasant. But I hope you like tribal aesthetics.
Because yeah, how dare you expect the Horde to move on from the Stone Age.
The horde is already at peak perfection, they don’t need to “advance” anywhere except deep into the heart of NElf lands. If you don’t like the aesthetic just set your Hearth to Silvermoon, that’s what I do. In the current expansion you wouldn’t even know you’re playing a horde character.
Edit: just read more of the thread, pretty clear the OP is a virulent racist and this thread should be flagged as inappropriate content. It reminds me why I don’t play alliance toons, clearly a bunch of weirdos who assign real life beliefs to what type of character you play in a video game. Alliance or Horde, both sides are murderous psychopaths, at least the Horde lets you play characters and cultures that are unique as opposed to Generic Fantasy Setting with Humans of Various Height.