Thrall and Orgrim were from the first war.
Which Lord of Clans makes clear afair.
Thrall was a baby during the first war. He was literally raised by humans.
Ogrim died during the second war, but he went with the first party through the dark portal. Ogrim died during the second war.
So…what is your point?
edit: never mind, I remember orgim was still there during the third war. Dude was old.
Regardless of lore from previous games/books, which usually gave a ton of extra cheese, horde & especially orcs are depicted as savage killers, bent on bloodthirst, revenge, honor, and just being edgy in general.
Alliance are honorbound diplomats with whimsical twists involving gnomes and ‘adventure’ in the form of drama usually through SI:7.
Everything lore-wise in WORLD OF WARCRAFT, is, by nature of design, supposed to be driven by these characteristics. We’re not talking about avid readers & hardcore lore fans.
So anything that A) portrays horde as having a conscience or being intelligent or B) makes alliance seem ‘bad-a$$’, especially after the death of Varian Wrynn, will ultimately look dumb in the long term.
I’m not gonna continue wasting my time with someone who is so desperate to be right that they’re selectively ignorant of things explicitly said to them.
Sure, man, the humans are all that’s righteous in WoW, and the orcs are all savages that want to kill you. If that helps you sleep at night, go for it, I’ll continue living in reality.
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Sure, man, the humans are all that’s righteous in WoW, and the orcs are all savages that want to kill you. If that helps you sleep at night, go for it, I’ll continue living in reality.
Again, you are missing THE POINT. YOU said humans are world conquers. I stated they aren’t. You brought up wars, I stated they were always infighting or against invaders.
You bring up Trollbane saying he conquered and destroyed Draenor, I proved otherwise.
Your whole argument with the orcs being stuck on Azeroth and the wars they were in doesn’t change the fact that Humans aren’t world conquerer’s in wow.
I never stated they are all righteous, because they are not. Thrall’s human master was vastly more evil than most Orcs. Dude was not righteous at all. But that doesn’t change the fact that Orcs, Trolls, The burning legion and Void lords/Old Gods are the only races in wow that are world conquers.
The rest usually just stay in their own lane while committing war. Tauran on Tauran infighting or against Centuars. Night elves against High Elves was common. Human war on each other was common as well. Night elves, high elves, humans vs Trolls was common.
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This is no longer true, and the title shows that you don’t know World of Warcraft Lore.
I’d recommend to read Thrall’s short story as one of the start points so you can remove the ignorance of your post later.
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Yeah?
…and?
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You’re a Tauren, you guys are so peaceful you literally wanted to cure the forsaken of their undeath. Literally the one reason the forsaken are even in the horde.
He actually died sometime after the Second War, The Second War officially ended in 6 ADP (After Dark Portal) With the destruction of the first Dark Portal. Ogrim died during the liberation of the Orcs sometime between 15-18 ADP the timeline is a bit foggy there.
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Yeah, I kinda remember him meeting a grown up Thrall and him being an old mentor then dying later.
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Orc jokes. “Orc smash.” “Ooh, shiny.”
Human jokes. “LOTR plot”
so basically vulpera are cute and should be on the alliance too op?
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Grimtotem
Yaungol Tribes
Bloodtotem
Not as peaceful as you think. There’s always bad apples that spoils the bunch.
We’re where we belong.
are you? AREEEE YOU?
ok cool.
I always wanted Sethrak to become playable and go Alliance.
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Sylvanas was seeking allies in whole Azeroth and even sent an emissary to Stormwind, that never returned.
The one to Quel’thalas was received but was refused sanctuary to the Forsaken and they were still in shambles with the destruction and death.
So yeah, the Tauren - Hamuul Runetotem was the one who gave ears to them and brought their pledge to Thrall and Cairne, and they were both sympathetic to the situation of the Forsaken, with Thrall in special because the way they obtained their free will, so did the Orcs recently.
Only the Darkspear shamans were not happy, but Vol’jin acknowledged that they would need allies should the Lich King and the scourge come back again.
The only reason the Forsaken went to the Horde is because the alliance was (as usual) bigot and wouldn’t hear their own kin.
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i wanted the arakkoa for alliance, both forms i like the big skeksis model for them<3
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I would boop Sethrak players noses all of the time like I do with dracthyr if that ever happens.
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Died freeing Orcs from a concentration camp where is Hammerfall today, hence the name of the town after Orgrimm Doomhammer.
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