Why has the Horde not advanced at all?

Mate, it was literally because they came off just trying to survive the scourge. I wouldn’t trust an undead 200 miles from me after that neither.

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Weird, because Stormwind was not affected by the Third War, neither Scourge or Burning Legion hit them there.

Wanna check your facts again?

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I mean, we have a Council based on each faction’s leader who have to make majority votes. The Horde is basically a Representative Republic.
The Alliance is the one whose faction is still based on Nepotism.

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Does SW need to be affected directly to know that a WHOLE KINGDOM ALLY OF THEIRS WAS TURNED TO DUST BECAUSE OF ZOMBIES?!

Check my facts? Mate, I hear zombies took over London, I am not allowing any refugees from london coming to my place.

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Autocracy.

The ones who decide who rules is the House of Nobles.

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are you yelling because you lost reason and have no facts?
Did you read again what I said?

I said that the Forsaken sent an emissary to Stormwind and it never returned. It is unknown if the emissary ever made to the gates.

So no, the “alliance” was not formed yet because Stormwind was NOT part of Warcraft 3 - it was the Alliance of Lordaeron that you play. Humans of Lordaeron.

And these that fled Eastern Kingdoms went to Kalimdor and created Theramore.

I think you need to get informed about the creation of the Alliance and the Horde before going into forums making such angry posts (yelling like that).

Ok, you’re just a troll.

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Wow, your whole comment reads like a reddit post.

Again, Zombie looking monster. Why would they ever think differently

Mate, Stormwind didn’t need to be part of the game, lore wise they were still allies with Lordaeron. FFS, nobles of Lordaeron stayed in SW for some time to time during the history of humans. What are you on about?

Yup, redditor

I ain’t talking about alliance and horde in game factions. I am talking about human factions. Lorderaon and Sw were still tight. Gilenas, not so much. Kul’tiras was still there because of Jaina and Arthas but after Arthas went all ANakin skywalker…

You know, human alliances between the human kingdoms.

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Is it me or does my dinner talk too much?

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Vulpera on Alliance would be cool, but lore wise it wouldn’t work.

We could recruit one of the pirate factions of vulpera though, have them work as privateers for Kul Tiras or something, since they’re not affiliated with the Vol’dun vulpera at all.

Or make some other cutesy race for Alliance. Gnomes try to be cute, but their models, VOs and animations rigs are just too old.

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It doesn’t work lore wise on horde too.

These little freaks should have been alliance and we should have gotten the snake people.

Dragon people also never should have existed

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So Indirect Nepotism.

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I mean, lore-wise, vulpera helped Horde haul around supplies to support their war effort because the Horde helped stop the Sethrakk from enslaving them. The Alliance came in and burned their caravans to try and deter this, which made the vulpera turn to the Horde for help again. Afterwards, the vulpera leaders decided they want to join the Horde.

I don’t think they’d ever consider joining the Alliance.

Now, the pirate faction ones? We killed their leader, so maybe she was a bad guy and now the pirate vulpera want to join up with Kul Tiras 'cause they want to be good guys now, or something.

Nepotism would mean favoritism shown to relatives.
Turalyion is not relative to the Wrynn’s House, and yet he was chosen by the House of Nobles.

Lore wise it didn’t make sense we also didn’t burn their supplies and eat those little freaks.

How much of that stupid song do you think any horde leader would endure before seeing them as talking foxes only worth eating

Leave Meerah alone, she’s cute. D:

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No Meerah needs to be tossed back into the desert with her smelly alpacas, give us Nisha back.

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Well, most don’t.

Im fine with all the races i play being ignored. Especially since everytime they give horde races attention its almost always bad.

Personally? My biggest issue in regards to representation is the lack of PLAYER representation in the lore.

It always feels like were just helping/watching someone elses story. Im tired of thrall, jaina, sylvanas, etc being the most important person in the story IM playing through. Im tired of being a sidekick/assistant to the actually important characters.

Let the player characters MATTER gdi.

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They used to do this better, before Activision took over.

Horde can keep Nisha and people like her, we’ll take Meerah and others like her. Sounds good to me.

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who invaded who’s world again in the original RTS warcraft game that started everything?

it was the orcs invading azeroth right? huh.

alliance are by no means innocent angels either, both sides commit atrocious acts.

but if we are looking at who were the original villains before all the awful retconning, it was very much the orc clans that banded together into a mighty warband called the horde who’s lust for war could not be satisfied.

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