You think the cutting edge players wanted the systems we have now? You think they like not being able to change specs at whim? Nah that was a random group that pushed for it. Kind of like what I am reading now in the FF forum, same complaint, only certain people are listened to.
You think the cutting edge players wanted to hand normal raid level gear to people for just finishing the story? According to your thought process they want you to have nothing right?
Thing is they listen, they implement ideas that others deem stupid all the time. Same thing happens in FF, doesnât take more than a casual read of their front page to see it, but hey, do carry on paying to maintain the servers whilst complaining. I am sure Blizzard appreciates you greatly!
For me, the stuff in Quarrymill really caught me. I felt so bad for those guys. (and it only got worse in Stormblood ) When they reintroduced him I was like HELL yes! ThenâŚthat happened. Then I did Mânaagoâs crafting quests and was just so mad lmao.
At least Nathanos still berates us in World Quests! 8D
My wording was bad. I didnât mean that the cutting edge players wanted these systems. The systems are in place because of dev laziness. They only want to add to classes something that can easily be thrown away so they donât have to âdeal withâ (aka do their jobs) balancing classes. Why balance classes when you can just try to balance throw away systems.
I came back for one month and I regret it. Thatâs on me. Iâm going to use the remaining time to keep telling the forum how bad current wow is.
Leveling in any game is gonna be a grind regardless, no matter what. Donât act like one game is worse then another. With the mentioned+MSQ XP, you get a ton of xp as is. And you seem to not understand Japan and its culture when you say:
"Its like FFXIV made the MSQ mandatory because they knew they'd bore players with the dry as dust plot eventually"
So, all your logic falls apart here. In Japan, thereâs something known as Jrpgs, or Japanese rpgs, but in general Japanese games put story before anything else first. Its their signature pride of game development. The MSQ is not âdry as dustâ because if you did it, youâd know its actually really good. It goes to show you havenât played much if at all. Its also normal to have a long lasting questline in Jrpgs as a whole and FFXIV is a MMOJRPG in this case, which is why itâs not everyoneâs thing. As someone whoâs caught up to current content, everything came together so well in the beginning of the end for the Hydaelyn/Zodiark saga.
But the fact that you said you have preorder earrings means youâve gone to some distance, and MSQ wasnât your thing - thatâs totally fine. I loved it, you didnât. We donât all have to love it. Just have a more open mind to how other cultures do things, Japan and USA are opposites as a whole in so many waysâŚincluding the way game development is done.
Iâm not talking about SL specifically. Systems have been in place since Legion. The only difference is in Legion we had TONS of content to go along with the system. The system being a weapon made sense and had lore surrounding it. Then BFA happened and every system in that expansion sucked. Who asked for these systems? I donât remember ANYONE asking for ANY of these systems.
Who asked for these systems? If the answer is âx forum groupâ I donât believe it. The diehard wow fans keep saying âthe forums only represent a fraction of the community, it doesnât matter what the forum saysâ. Canât have it both ways.
wowâŚokay first off, somebodyâs trying to fish for more âFriendsâ for the FFâs Recruit A Friend thing?
Player Housing, though fun, ends up becoming a pain. May I remind you how cutthroat FF14âs player housing market is? Also, if Garrisons failed miserably, what makes you think Player Housing will work? Cuz itâll end up like Wildstarâs (instanced housing that becomes just another capital city where folks will just stay there and never leave as well as turning their home into a goldmine)
Armor Dyes? really? Theyâre not going to do that not on a tech aspect but itâs going to be heavily abused when folks try to turn their âLFRâ armor into âMythicâ
by âCasualsâ you mean the entitled who are mad because they want to do high end content for bare minimal effort? They hear rumors that in FF14, any class is viable (despite that most Ultimates force players into job specs)
RP communities exist in WoW, just that most either are in Classic due to TBC and other things.
But hey, one thing WoW does that FF14 did is this:
At least we donât lock a raceâs opposite gender in another expansion
I for one am frankly tired of hearing about raidlogger opinions on anything. I think talking about FFXIV has become popular because it makes a particular sort of player, the one highly invested in the niche endgame experience that is catered toâto the detriment of all others, very uncomfortable. To that end, I support it even if I have no interest in FFXIV at all.
Player housing in 14 is terrible, we all know this, but the garrison system was trash.
Irrelevant, itâs a dye, it doesnât affect stats.
Uhh, no? All classes in 14 can do all content, with ease. They are in fact all viable. Hell iâve done Ultimates on Dark Knight (before Shadowbringers) which was dubbed the WORST tankâŚso noâŚagain no. Ultimates are for statics anyway.
Rp communites flip back and forth, just like with a lot of players.
yeah we never really forgave them for this, so youâre not wrong hereâŚ
I have two maxed characters, both max omnicrafters, both max in several classes, and a handful of alts in the 60-70 range that were leveled the old sloggy-fashioned way. No, I know the XIV story way too well.
SPOILER WARNINGS FOR A TWO YEAR OLD GAME.
I found Shadowbringers was a variation on âSylvanas did nothing wrongâ, except times-multiple worldsâ worth of Teldrassils. A huge flaw in FFXIVâs writing is they often care way more about the killers than the victims. They set up horrible atrocities, and then never realistically handle the weight of those crimes. In fact, the EX called that particular killer âheroicâ, and honored the killer with rites of a people they were trying to kill. I found that grotesque. Iâd ârememberâ the people murdered.
They literally blamed one of the victims more than the murdererâbecause apparently, Tempering a child in the womb without even consulting the mother is not skeevy at all, and the madness of Tempering is a valid excuse for villainy only if the fandom has the hotties for the Tempered. Thatâs bad writing, and the tropes involved with it were lazy and juvenile. It also revelealed a really ugly side of the âgreat communityâ.
The other bad guy is GOD IâM BORED I NEED TO KILL THINGS. What depth! What innovation!
Underage girl nearly naked for a raid boss: not weird at all. /s
And, in general: preparing banquets and making friendship bracelets when there is very literally another Primal crisis? Makes total sense. Iâve seen the FFXIV fanbase laugh that WoW always uses the same kind of bad guys, which is hilarious considering everything in FFXIV is up to Iâve-lost-track of Primals. Or the previously mentioned world-killing baddies, but theyâre MoRaLlY rElAtIvE!!!11
Those are blizzard owned games? Seems you didnt read all I said. The moment you create threads talking about NON Blizzard owned games it suppose to go under offtopic/other games. Technically GD is for all Blizzard owned games not just wow.
I dont see how you didnt get this. Did you not read everything I said?
I did read what you said, however, you seem to not understand the rules of the forums. Even WoW themed articles get sent to their respective forums if its a player made one.
You dont get to change the rules to just make it Blizzard owned gamesâŚ
Might wanna put most of that in spoiler tag for people who are just trying out the game, sounds like your not too much into different kinds of narratives as a whole. And yes shiva fight was weird, but you have to admit the ending with
Summary
Gaia saving her and us was truly awesome. It was also a huge lore reveal showing what she really was the whole time, hinting at it by the portal she opened.
Please put anything spoiler-ish in spoiler tags for others
) When they reintroduced him I was like HELL yes! ThenâŚthat happened. Then I did Mânaagoâs crafting quests and was just so mad lmao.
