Why does the Alliance not even try to win AV anymore?

And

Now it is not.
Or should not be as much, you can still randomly face a premade

I agree. Alliance queue times are low, so we have many AFK-leeches. Blizzard did something about the premades, so they should also put more effort into anti-afk.

Faced 3 in a row last night, accidentally landed in one and had a blast. Logged off immediately :smile:

I have won 10 games over the last week - In all games I won - we SMASH the horde at SH - send a group of 20+ to SF - hold both for 4 mins - SF moves to IB - and eventually ditch SH. Every game that has 10+ in the cave after start or 10+ in DB - I just AFK from and try again in 15 mins. Keep trying - we do win still. ZUG ZUG

Ending the evening on a high note, what could be better :slight_smile:

If u are in AV 7 right now - u are getting your ### kicked horde!

Because alliance are lazy and all the good ally pvpers are in WSG.

Hardly ever win wsg unless they are in a premade.

Fun aspect?!?? Losing 99% of games in AV is ‘fun’ to you???

That depends on how i lose

And when 15 people sit afk in the cave and 15 go hide in a mine
i leave and go do something else

Back in vanilla, Alliance absolutely dominated AV. That’s why in 1.12 Blizz moved the horde starting cave closer to the centre of the map (where it is in Classic), made some small terrain changes, and a lot of difficulty changes with respect to the PVE components.

These changes were made because horde was getting absolutely destroyed in AV after Alliance were fully geared. But things have changed a lot since then.

Because of these changes, during the Burning Crusade the alliance was able to basically fully boycott AV until blizzard changed it back to the pre 1.12 version.

After which The Horde start cave went back to the south tip of the map, to where it originally was pre 1.12, and is in retail now.
But AV was ultimately watered down afterwards

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funny story “why do alliance try to win anymore” I dont. haven’t won 1 game in 2 weeks. i think ive gotten past SFGY 1 time. My will to try has dwindled to say the least. i jsut toss my heals out some people kill stuff and i profit.

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Galv does give honor. Stop spreading fake news.

Because ally had premades in 1.12 and they were rampant.

Other then being on communications, the major reason why premades did better then pugs was no afk’rs or bots. Equally minded people fighting for same outcome. 40v40, not the 25(ish)v40 games you see now.

because you are not ridding the coat tail pf premade ranking groups anymore thats why you are losing.

the more the alliance accepts this the better off you will be.

No one is listening to you. Post on a classic toon and maybe we’ll listen.

Zug, zug.

this is whats wrong with classic player base have fun getting destroyed in av blizzard cant fix bad players.

Oh, noes… “get destroyed in av” from someone that probably contributes zero to their herd (yes, I said herd instead of horde).

I play for fun win or lose, sure it would be great to win more then losing. But I love to pvp so I will continue to queue up for AV and WSG solo. What’s ur toons name? so I can look out for him or her in the battle field. My hunter’s name is Emkay. I wont be hard to miss.

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get good blizzard cant fix bad players.