Why do you hate Dungeons and Raid Finder really?

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The most toxic behavior it encourages being the 300 elitists who show up every day making threads asking to take the system away.

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Dungeons because you outgear them quickly (I don’t have time to run mythics). I liked running previous LFR’s, but the current one is just boring.

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It also gives those of us who have no interest in joining a drama factory to see the end game content.

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You remove the community from the game. Before you needed to make friends to get things done. Now you just blow through everything and disband the group. For all I know I got matched up with NPCs.

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i used to not like LFR but that was because of siege of org trinkets

now it’s pretty lucrative and i do it a few times a week. joining lfr ghuun and setting up runners is like 2.5k easy if the satchel is up.

chain pull a random heroic and get the same reward for less work. and it’s the only real enjoyable way to level/gear a tank.

however, i have made 100000% more friends using the mythic+ finder than the LFD/LFR. fwiw

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Still better than nothing, which is what some of us had before these tools to help us out.

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Why did you have nothing? Everyone had access before too.

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Can’t do anything back then if you didn’t have connections. Spamming for hours to get a group in a city with no luck was a real thing for some people, like me.

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I remember those days back in classic, wound up having to give up after an hour of searching for a tank. oh great times

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They are NOT bad features. The only complainers are vanilla and BC players who had to walk to dungeons and actually enjoyed it. They want to force us to walk to dungeons like they did and form groups in general chat sitting around all day.

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FF14’s community is just as toxic.

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lol no it’s not. Only in WoW will someone get vote kicked because of what server they’re on, or because the group is all guildies and they don’t want to share loot, or because it’s Tuesday, or because they don’t like the transmog the guy is wearing, or literally just because they think it’s funny(which people have admitted to). And unlike SE, Blizzard apparently doesn’t punish players for abusing the vote kick system, which encourages more toxic behavior.

You’ll run into a few bad players over there but it’s nowhere near as broad as WoW’s toxic problem.

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Yeah that happened to everyone which is why you added people after a good run. I literally made more friends in TBC than Wrath, Cata,Mop, Wod, Legion, BFA combined.

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Didn’t have much of an opportunity to do that when I couldn’t land invites, and even the few I did get didn’t end up being forged into deep lifelong bonds of friendship. People have used each other to get what they want since the beginning.

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With 10 million players I find it hard to believe you couldn’t find groups or join a guild. Interacting with each other is what an MMO is about.

LFR and LFD is bad because it turns this into a single player game.

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It depends the type of hatred – I hate it from time to time as it doesn’t really teach people the fights as they appear in even normal difficulty, doesn’t encourage people to get better, and is sometimes just a hot mess.

However I recognize that it provides a dungeon or raiding experience for people who wouldn’t otherwise make it into higher difficulties – at least initially – and some people do grow from LFR to become competent raiders or at least not completely clueless in normal difficulty.

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It was the truth though. Granted I had other things working against me at the time (had to hide the game from my dad and could only play off-hours, and I played on a low-pop PvP server at the time) but I still tried my best to find groups, even if they mostly ended up in failure.

Never did get to run most of the dungeons in BC, and no one ever wanted to run anything that wasn’t Mechanar or Slave Pens.

But that’s the thing. If the community was all too willing to turn its back on its fellows, why should I care if any features disrupt that “community”?

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When I did Hivemind no one would invite me to their groups. SO I then formed my own group. We filled up and then I had to tell people they couldn’t join.
Joining an active guild solves almost all of those things was working against you.

You should care about the community because when the community is gone the massive multiplayer game dies.

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I tried to do that. The groups I did form end up being just three DPS sitting there for a couple hours before finally leaving because no tanks or healers wanted to join.

The guilds I did end up getting into in BC were all useless, do-nothing guilds I couldn’t count on for anything.

I don’t have many issues in that regard right now. I have a good guild, and a decent circle of friends. I am running lots of stuff today. My experience is the opposite; I have more friends in BfA than I ever did in BC.

I care to an extent, I just don’t think tools like LFR or LFD hurt it all that much. People that were left out of the game before are no longer left out and I see that as a great thing.

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It’s not the systems that are the issue, its the community.

Uh… 10 million players? You do realize we can’t even play with the people in the other regions, right?

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